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KelogGes 04-14-2015 01:13 PM

Back to reversing the gases on an early model 911

KelogGes 04-14-2015 01:14 PM

I have made a set of PFC's for a DIY'er They Will Be Installed Reversing The Gases
 
I have made a matched set of PFC's for a DIY'er

They Will Be Installed BY The Owner "Reversing The Gases"

West Coast 86 Carrera Cabriolet DIY owner

wwest 04-14-2015 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KelogGes (Post 8576653)
I have made a matched set of PFC's for a DIY'er

They Will Be Installed BY The Owner "Reversing The Gases"

West Coast 86 Carrera Cabriolet DIY owner

Excellent!

Why not have your DIY'er first install your PFC's without the reverse aspect, take some data, and then convert to reverse flow and supply you with comparison data sets?

Validation of your "invention".

Put the fire to the feet of all us "naysayers".

wwest 04-14-2015 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KelogGes (Post 8576651)
Back to reversing the gases on an early model 911

What? No simple drawing of airflow against the flat leading edge of you horizontally mounted PFC?

wwest 04-14-2015 01:59 PM

Drag coefficient - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1429045107.jpg

KelogGes 04-14-2015 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wwest (Post 8576698)
What? No simple drawing of airflow against the flat leading edge of you horizontally mounted PFC?

nothing for YOU

KelogGes 04-14-2015 03:14 PM

in your case

you can't fix/help stupid!

Ronnie's.930 04-14-2015 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KelogGes (Post 8575947)
I have never posted anything but true facts here I can back up with proof !

Yep, you've posted proof that your creations perform ALMOST as good as the long-used, 911 a/c upgrades which are available without all of the smoke-&-mirrors nonsense associated with yours.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KelogGes (Post 8576097)
Prove me wrong

Again? Wow, you're definitely a glutton for punishment!

KelogGes 04-14-2015 03:55 PM

Reversing the Gases
 
something old

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1429051147.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1429051921.jpg

something Brand NEW

KelogGes 04-14-2015 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronnie's.930 (Post 8576890)
Yep, you've posted proof that your creations perform ALMOST as good as the long-used, 911 a/c upgrades which are available without all of the smoke-&-mirrors nonsense associated with yours.



Again? Wow, you're definitely a glutton for punishment!

and you are definitely a LIAR

I can take the punishment can you?

KelogGes 04-14-2015 04:24 PM

maybe its time to start trolling you and your 5,994 Posts: around daily calling you a LIAR

the way you have done me,

except I have never lied BUT YOU HAVE

Ronnie's.930 04-14-2015 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KelogGes (Post 8576959)

I can take the punishment can you?

If you call under 30 degrees vent temperatures in 98 ambient, resulting in interior temps that you could safely transport meat in, "punishment", then yes, I'll take all the punishment I can get!


Quote:

Originally Posted by KelogGes (Post 8576982)
maybe its time to start trolling you and your 5,994 Posts: around daily calling you a LIAR

I won't have a problem with that since the only person on the forums that questions my honesty is YOU, and we all know how little credibility you have when it comes to Porsche 911 a/c.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KelogGes (Post 8576982)
maybe its time to start trolling you and your 5,994 Posts: around daily calling you a LIAR

the way you have done me,

except I have never lied BUT YOU HAVE

When did I call you a liar? I have repeatedly pointed out that your a/c creations and ideas do not outperform the well established upgrades that people use (what you call "obsolete"), and in fact, barely equal some I have seen and work less well than others. This observation is based on the evidence that you have provided. How is that "calling you a liar"?

KelogGes 04-14-2015 05:06 PM

Bs

you are a liar!


Quote:

Originally Posted by ronnie's.930 (Post 8576989)
if you call under 30 degrees vent temperatures in 98 ambient, resulting in interior temps that you could safely transport meat in, "punishment", then yes, i'll take all the punishment i can get!




I won't have a problem with that since the only person on the forums that questions my honesty is you, and we all know how little credibility you have when it comes to porsche 911 a/c.



When did i call you a liar? I have repeatedly pointed out that your a/c creations and ideas do not outperform the well established upgrades that people use (what you call "obsolete"), and in fact, barely equal some i have seen and work less well than others. This observation is based on the evidence that you have provided. How is that "calling you a liar"?


wwest 04-14-2015 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KelogGes (Post 8577048)
Bs

you are a liar!

when you begin to think everyone else is crazy......

Bob Kontak 04-14-2015 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KelogGes (Post 8577048)
Bs

you are a liar!

Ronnie's numbers on the infrared were true. A man with a 1" chubb (stiffy mode) does not lie. What does he really have to live for?

However, pull the car out of the 80 F shade into 95 F and start cooking the car and the whole dynamic will change to where his system works. I don't see that as lying.

SilberUrS6 04-14-2015 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KelogGes (Post 8576361)
in your case

you can't fix stupid!

The second most ironic thing I've read on Pelican Parts.

Ronnie's.930 04-14-2015 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 8577239)
Ronnie's numbers on the infrared were true. A man with a 1" chubb (stiffy mode) does not lie. What does he really have to live for?

urmom has never complained!!! :D

Mark at Pelican Parts 04-15-2015 09:50 AM

Again folks, if we can turn this thread around to a tolerable tone without harassment then we'll keep it alive. If we continue down this path, we'll shut it down.

Honestly, I'd like to see it play out - up to you.

Mark at Pelican Parts

wwest 04-15-2015 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark at Pelican Parts (Post 8578108)
Again folks, if we can turn this thread around to a tolerable tone without harassment then we'll keep it alive. If we continue down this path, we'll shut it down.

Honestly, I'd like to see it play out - up to you.

Mark at Pelican Parts

This thread is well beyond being creative so I think most of us would just as soon see it closed.

I suggest that once KelogGes has real, actual, results to provide, and/or decides to widely market his "inventions", that he then open a new thread.

On the other there is entertainment value...

KelogGes 04-15-2015 11:11 AM

Thank You Mark

KelogGes 04-15-2015 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wwest (Post 8578194)
this thread is well beyond being creative so i think most of us would just as soon see it closed.

I suggest that once kelogges has real, actual, results to provide, and/or decides to widely market his "inventions", that he then open a new thread.

On the other there is entertainment value...

you are a major part of the harrasment

Ronnie's.930 04-15-2015 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KelogGes (Post 8578279)
you are part of the harrasment

Pot & Kettle at its finest . . .

KelogGes 04-15-2015 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronnie's.930 (Post 8578294)
Pot & Kettle at its finest . . .

same goes to you

I do not follow people around here constantly harassing them like you do

Algernon 04-15-2015 11:37 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1429123073.jpg

KelogGes 04-15-2015 11:58 AM

The harassment I have been subjected to here bringing new innovation and technology for early model 911's A/C systems has been extreme by a handful of people with the entente to destroy innovation

wwest 04-15-2015 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronnie's.930 (Post 8578294)
Pot & Kettle at its finest . . .

Should resent that comparison..???

KelogGes 04-15-2015 12:19 PM

wwest you are harassing me!!!

Ronnie's.930 04-15-2015 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KelogGes (Post 8578357)
The harassment I have been subjected to here bringing new innovation and technology for early model 911's A/C systems has been extreme by a handful of people with the entente to destroy innovation

This is categorically false and you know it.

You have made extremely arrogant claims that your innovations are far superior to everything else on the market (what you refer to as "obsolete, garbage, junk", etc.), your claims have been rebuked, and you are upset about that. How is that "harassment" or an attempt to "destroy innovation"?

If I came on here and posted flamboyant boasts, trashed existing alternatives, and then couldn't back up my claims with evidence, I would expect to be kicked up one side and down the other.

88911coupe 04-15-2015 12:34 PM

I can't stop reading these threads...I must be insane. Anyway, I am curious to see the DIY results. Still planning to try and duplicate what Ronnie has done since it obviously worked and I seem to have resolved my random no start issue (fingers and toes crossed)!

KelogGes 04-15-2015 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronnie's.930 (Post 8578407)
This is categorically false and you know it.

You have made extremely arrogant claims that your innovations are far superior to everything else on the market (what you refer to as "obsolete, garbage, junk", etc., your claims have been rebuked, and you are upset about that. How is that "harassment" or an attempt to "destroy innovation".

I am entitled to my opinion AS an innovator and a promoter of new technology !

As far as I am concerned my statement is true!

THAT IS NOT HARASSMENT! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

go look the word HARASSMENT up

ha·rass·ment
həˈrasmənt,ˈherəsmənt/
noun
noun: harassment; plural noun: harassments

aggressive pressure or intimidation.

I have never been aggressive pressure or intimidation

KelogGes 04-15-2015 12:45 PM

are you drunk?

70SATMan 04-15-2015 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KelogGes (Post 8576653)
I have made a matched set of PFC's for a DIY'er

They Will Be Installed BY The Owner "Reversing The Gases"

West Coast 86 Carrera Cabriolet DIY owner

Cool Collars would be a great addition to this reversing the gasses idea. You'd get an additional 18-23 degree reduction in temps.

KelogGes 04-15-2015 12:52 PM

why are you even here?

ONLY TO HARRASS ME because I refused to sell to you and told you I did not want your business ?

KelogGes 04-15-2015 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 70SATMan (Post 8578437)
Cool Collars would be a great addition to this reversing the gasses idea. You'd get an additional 18-23 degree reduction in temps.

??? I have no idea what you are talking about

KelogGes 04-15-2015 01:01 PM

I don't need any additions to get colder temps than temps 30's degrees my system already get @ 95 F Ambient using ONLY 2 very lightweight pfc's in the OEM original body placement cavities with no appreciable engine oil temp rise when the A/C is ON LoL

IF YOU RACE THINK ABOUT THAT!

70SATMan 04-15-2015 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KelogGes (Post 8578445)
why are you even here?

ONLY TO HARRASS ME because I refused to sell to you and told you I did not want your business ?

For thread clarification, I have not inquired about buying Kelogg's product.:)

wwest 04-15-2015 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KelogGes (Post 8578463)
I don't need any additions to get colder temps than temps 30's degrees my system already get @ 95 F Ambient using ONLY 2 very lightweight pfc's in the OEM original body placement LoL


My factory system could match that (Memphis, August) easily, and with a few inexpensive modifications(***) will not only beat it but do so with the engine at idle.

*** Spal fans to increase the efficiency of the rear lid condenser when needed.

KelogGes 04-15-2015 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wwest (Post 8578497)
My factory system could match that (Memphis, August) easily, and with a few inexpensive modifications(***) will not only beat it but do so with the engine at idle.

*** Spal fans to increase the efficiency of the rear lid condenser when needed.

DUH ok rofl prove it

and market it here on Pelican Parts

its time people see right through you AND YOUR BS!

Bob Kontak 04-15-2015 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KelogGes (Post 8578445)
why are you even here?

ONLY TO HARRASS ME because I refused to sell to you and told you I did not want your business ?

This is the type of commentary that puts your tit right in a wringer.

Why do it? You expecting a different outcome?

KelogGes 04-15-2015 03:16 PM

THERE is more going on here than you know or you think you know
in the background in the A/C THREADS HERE


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