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KelogGes 04-11-2015 01:55 PM

" Reversing the gas's " TELLS YOU HOW TO FIX IT
 
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Originally Posted by KelogGes (Post 8563558)
PORSCHE STOCK OEM EARLY MODEL 911 A/C SYSTEM FRONT AND REAR TOTAL OF 2 CONDENSERS A/C SYSTEM
TUBE AND FIN TECHNOLOGY

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1428290287.gif

PORSCHE ENGINEERING MAJOR DESIGN FLAWS THEY REALLY SCREWED UP!

AND ITS STILL THE SAME STUPID MINDSET TODAY

" Reversing the gas's "
TELLS YOU HOW TO FIX IT

Ronnie's.930 04-11-2015 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tirwin (Post 8571903)
Dave,

Here is the problem I see with Reid's approach . . .

So, we're left with a target market for Reid's idea of people that fall in option 3 -- the complete DIYer that has complete faith and confidence in their knowledge and abilities AND the time and cash to burn if the idea doesn't pan out. And where would you go for assistance? Reid?

Most people that I think fall into option 3 seem to be panning Reid's idea. Why do you suppose that is? Most people do a risk/benefit analysis when making a decision. It seems the jury is saying they fail to see a SUPERIOR benefit as Reid claims. What people seem to believe is that it is a push. The burden of proof is on Reid because it's his claim. If he was a bit more humble I don't think he would get the pushback he gets, but that is a different discussion. . . .


Excellent post, Tim (all of if, not just the snippet I quoted here), that nicely explains why Reid gets "dogged" (as he calls it) so much in these threads - really enjoyed reading it.

As I've said many times previously (speaking of "many times", notice how Reid is again "open looping" his previous posts *Bob's outstanding description of Reid's practice* - too funny, in a "point-n-laugh" sort of way), Reid has yet to demonstrate a/c performance that is superior to what is obtainable with "obsolete" technology, so all of his much repeated, "FULL CAPS" chest beating is nothing more than self-parody at this point.

tirwin 04-11-2015 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveMcKenz (Post 8571924)
Tirwin, I know what you mean. I think his presentation is not well targeted. Does he want people to buy a product? I don't really think so. I think he wants to show off his successes, much like anyone here who posts about their suspension project or engine rebuild. Not sure why he comes off so negative but that's just him, I think.
So far his ideas include: Parallel flow condensers, improved airflow to front and rear condensers, reversed condenser order, orifice tube evaporator system, improved evaporator and blower, electronic a/c control. These are all at least interesting ideas, and some are well accepted by most a/c guys.
He is obviously proud of his results, and wants to share, but also some credit for his efforts.
I don't really pay much attention to the BS, so without that, this is a two page thread with some decent info.
Thanks,
Dave

Fair enough. For me the bull***** to value ratio is too out of whack to pay him any more attention though. Carry on...

Ronnie's.930 04-11-2015 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by tirwin (Post 8572381)
Fair enough. For me the bull***** to value ratio is too out of whack to pay him any more attention though. Carry on...

Exactly!

And here is a good representation of Reid's bs-v-value ratio (the toilet representing "value" buttofcourse) -

http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/to...ll-of-crap.gif

Bob Kontak 04-11-2015 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie's.930 (Post 8572392)
Exactly!

Ronnie says Get Some:

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/S06nIz4scvI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Ronnie's.930 04-11-2015 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 8572402)
Ronnie says Get Some:

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/S06nIz4scvI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Yes indeed!!!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1428793433.jpghttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1428793575.jpg

KelogGes 04-11-2015 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie's.930 (Post 8572428)

Ronnies BS numbers again


roflmao

Oh Haha 04-11-2015 04:23 PM

Reid--how can you call Ronnie's temp BS? It's right there on the meter.

BTW-thank you for responding to my earlier question. I can appreciate the effort you have put forth in this.

Bob Kontak 04-11-2015 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KelogGes (Post 8572507)
Ronnies BS numbers again

Why would he lie?

He has nothing to prove. He can laugh at himself freely. He is down to earth and does not compare himself to world class game changers.

This is the antithesis of you. Better look that one up, spell king.

You never went to a real school, did you?

Deal with it. You have big big little man issues.

KelogGes 04-11-2015 04:27 PM

Keep smoking that crack pipe

Bob Kontak 04-11-2015 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by KelogGes (Post 8572533)
Keep smoking that crack pipe

You got nuttin that's a step change. Own it.

KelogGes 04-11-2015 04:33 PM

Thank You Wayne!

Ronnie's.930 04-11-2015 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Oh Haha (Post 8572522)
Reid--how can you call Ronnie's temp BS? It's right there on the meter.

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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 8572524)
Why would he lie?

One thing I want to mention about the various vent temp pictures I've posted (which Bob is already aware of); those were originally not taken to post in a Pelican thread, but were taken to send to Bob and Eric early-ish last summer when I had completed some major, custom changes to my a/c system, was really happy with the results and wanted to share it with them (with my usual "getcha suuummm" commentary, of course). In fact, I sent them details and pictures of the work for about a month as it was taking place - including my several eff ups along the way. In other words, and as Bob mentioned, the pictures are not staged and I have no reason to lie about anything here.

Bob Kontak 04-11-2015 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KelogGes (Post 8572544)
Thank You Wayne!

You get what you give.

KelogGes 04-11-2015 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie's.930 (Post 8572548)
One thing I want to mention about the various vent temp pictures I've posted (which Bob is already aware of); those were originally not taken to post in a Pelican thread, but were taken to send to Bob and Eric early-ish last summer when I had completed some major, custom changes to my a/c system, was really happy with the results and wanted to share it with them (with my usual "getcha suuummm" commentary, of course). In fact, I sent them details and pictures of the work for about a month as it was taking place - including my several eff ups along the way. In other words, and as Bob mentioned, the pictures are not staged and I have no reason to lie about anything here.

your numbers are BS
Just like you

Ronnie's.930 04-11-2015 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KelogGes (Post 8572569)
your numbers are BS
Just like you

Right, I want very cold a/c, am unable to achieve it, and/or only at the expense of evaporator freezing problems which I decide I have to be satisfied with (since that works so well to keep the car interior frosty in the Texas climate), so I take pictures of the temp gun immediately following aiming it in my home freezer in order to feel special. :rolleyes:

Bob Kontak 04-11-2015 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KelogGes (Post 8572569)
your numbers are BS
Just like you

Small man talking here.

This small:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1428799870.jpg

KelogGes 04-11-2015 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie's.930 (Post 8572572)
Right, I want very cold a/c, am unable to achieve it, and/or only at the expense of evaporator freezing problems which I decide I have to be satisfied with (since that works so well to keep the car interior frosty in the Texas climate), so I take pictures of the temp gun immediately following aiming it in my home freezer in order to feel special. :rolleyes:

keep telling us you get 29 degree's and your evaporator does not freeze up
BS

roflma

Ronnie's.930 04-11-2015 05:03 PM

Here's some more of my BS -

A spacer/adapter I made in order to fit the 1987-style hamster wheel to the GM blower motor (took several failed ideas to get it right). The original fan works much better in the 1987 evap box top than the fan that comes with the GM motor, so well worth the effort . . .

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1428800432.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1428800645.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1428800476.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1428800533.jpg

Ronnie's.930 04-11-2015 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KelogGes (Post 8572582)
keep telling us you get 29 degree's and your evaporator does not freeze up
BS

roflma

Will (wwest) already explained how this is possible (he's been very curious about this detail, too, but hasn't actually called me a liar, however) earlier on in this thread - like you are fond of saying "figure it out"!


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