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911SauCy 08-01-2018 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by pampadori (Post 10127639)
@jimtweet earns the cleanest engine bay award!

+1 all of these set-ups are envy worthy...but Jim comes in and curbstomps with overall install cleanliness.

preston_brown 08-01-2018 07:17 PM

3.9L race engine from 1999 or so:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1533179770.jpg

acme911 08-02-2018 07:49 AM

3.0
 
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lvporschepilot 08-02-2018 09:25 AM

very nice linkage solution

evan9eleven 08-02-2018 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by lvporschepilot (Post 10128713)
very nice linkage solution

No kidding! Who makes it?

acme911 08-02-2018 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evan9eleven (Post 10129046)
No kidding! Who makes it?

Thanks, I made the linkage and mounting plate as well as the intakes. The Bell crank was sourced.

stevesc_us 08-03-2018 11:02 AM

Just got my hot rod back from retuning that required replacing a faulty O2 sensor and happy to report she’s running great now! A stock 3.2 motor converted to AEM Infinity EFI with 46 PMO ITB’s and COP’s. Final dyno #’s reflect 270 HP at the crank with a really flat torque curve of ~220, which is plenty enough for me. Can’t get over how comfortable the early sport seats are BTW.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1533322732.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1533322796.jpg
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Quickstep192 08-03-2018 11:51 AM


Man, that is slick! Where did that come from?

evan9eleven 08-03-2018 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acme911 (Post 10129129)
Thanks, I made the linkage and mounting plate as well as the intakes. The Bell crank was sourced.

Beautiful work!

acme911 08-03-2018 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quickstep192 (Post 10129970)
Man, that is slick! Where did that come from?

Hi, I fabricated the parts on a small lathe and mill in my garage. The manifold is a reworked aluminum 964. I cut off the original throttle body and retained the Vacuum resonance flap it is controlled through AEM ECU. The whole system is tapered from 42 mm to 40mm Jenvey's to a final of 34mm.

Carbon fiber look is actually Hydro Dipping.

Another pic of it without air cleaner. The whole package exhausts out of OEM 911 GT3 muffler.

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acme911 08-03-2018 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evan9eleven (Post 10129994)
Beautiful work!

Thank you. This forum inspires us to try different idea's.

evan9eleven 08-03-2018 02:20 PM

Here is mine... Triumph ITB's and MS2 kit from X-Faktory, with my adapted PMO filters and hats.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1533334391.JPG

speedracer07 08-04-2018 03:12 PM

I bet it sounds amazing !

RSBob 08-05-2018 06:31 PM

Don’t be too jealous or ask me how I pulled this setup off, but I consider it pure genius. This is mine:

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| T. + T. |
| T. + T. |
| T. @ T. |
—————-

For the unwashed, the . Are the injectors (duh)

Way to boost that post count.

chrisbalich 08-06-2018 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSBob (Post 10132121)
Don’t be too jealous or ask me how I pulled this setup off, but I consider it pure genius. This is mine:

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| T. + T. |
| T. + T. |
| T. @ T. |
—————-

For the unwashed, the . Are the injectors (duh)

Way to boost that post count.

i like how you put all the injectors on the right side of the TB. very 'out of the box' thinking

Nux 08-08-2018 03:27 AM

Has any of you guys ever made your own filters for the individual stacks - Singer style? It's a shame to hide those shiny trumpets away:



http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1533727329.jpg

merlinfe 08-08-2018 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nux (Post 10134612)
Has any of you guys ever made your own filters for the individual stacks - Singer style? It's a shame to hide those shiny trumpets away:



http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1533727329.jpg

Making a suitable filter for velocity stacks can be difficult. For the velocity stack to be most effective it needs clean air above and around the lip out to a certain distance (usually 1 1/2”). Dry foam filter socks disturb that area. K&N filters can be adapted but you need a way to mount them which can be problematic if you have non standardized cylinder spacing and/or velocity stacks. Then you can even go as far as intake runner length designed for intake valve harmonics. I calculated the 3.0 Flat six needs approximately 22inches per runner to be effective in this regards. That is from the back face of the intake valve to the lip of the velocity stack. The shorter the runner, the higher the point where useful torque is felt in the rev range.

Lots of black magic and pseudo-mathematics involved. : )

-Steve

Nux 08-09-2018 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merlinfe (Post 10134701)
Making a suitable filter for velocity stacks can be difficult. For the velocity stack to be most effective it needs clean air above and around the lip out to a certain distance (usually 1 1/2”). Dry foam filter socks disturb that area. K&N filters can be adapted but you need a way to mount them which can be problematic if you have non standardized cylinder spacing and/or velocity stacks. Then you can even go as far as intake runner length designed for intake valve harmonics. I calculated the 3.0 Flat six needs approximately 22inches per runner to be effective in this regards. That is from the back face of the intake valve to the lip of the velocity stack. The shorter the runner, the higher the point where useful torque is felt in the rev range.

Lots of black magic and pseudo-mathematics involved. : )

-Steve

Yep, I too calculated 56 cm from intake valve to lip = 22inches.

I've scheduled some dyno time next month and will try to see if theres any difference with different filters.

WP0ZZZ 08-09-2018 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Nux (Post 10135892)
Yep, I too calculated 56 cm from intake valve to lip = 22inches.

I've scheduled some dyno time next month and will try to see if theres any difference with different filters.

For what rpm range are they tuned at 56 cm?

Nux 08-09-2018 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by WP0ZZZ (Post 10135899)
For what rpm range are they tuned at 56 cm?

My peak torque is set at 4500rpm. But it depends on your cam duration and intake runner size. And some voodoo stuff......

sp_cs 08-09-2018 12:30 PM

ATPower - this 964 package looks good

https://www.atpower.com/products/porsche-964-plug-and-play-throttle-body-kit

mikedsilva 08-09-2018 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sp_cs (Post 10136465)

Pretty impressive output for a totally stock motor.

TAV 08-11-2018 02:35 AM

Work in progress
 
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rkeele 08-11-2018 09:05 AM

Hmm would think 48 mm is a little small for a 3.8 seems 50 is a better choice at least for a track Porsche with all your mods

robcf 08-11-2018 02:06 PM

I wonder how durable the rp intake runners are.

Shaun @ Tru6 08-12-2018 11:26 AM


Can you please post a few pics of what's under the foam and the underside of the foam?

TAV 08-12-2018 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 10140073)
Can you please post a few pics of what's under the foam and the underside of the foam?

Hey Shaun, I only have this pic as I’m away from the car at the moment. I’ll get some more pics in the next week if you’re still keen.



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81SC 08-13-2018 12:07 AM

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Tav, that photo won't help with the down under jokes. ;)

JJ 911SC 08-13-2018 01:43 AM

LMFT4U...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1534153375.jpg

Shaun @ Tru6 08-13-2018 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TAV (Post 10140717)
Hey Shaun, I only have this pic as I’m away from the car at the moment. I’ll get some more pics in the next week if you’re still keen.



http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1534159034.jpg

Thank you, this pic helps. Interested to see how the foam fits over these.

TAV 09-24-2018 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 10140784)
Thank you, this pic helps. Interested to see how the foam fits over these.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1537790401.jpg

sp_cs 09-24-2018 04:34 AM

Hello TAV - the trumpet design looks very different from the ATPower ITBs I have seen which have the usual vertical stacks. What’s the reason behind the curved intake?

nathanbs 09-24-2018 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sp_cs (Post 10192846)
Hello TAV - the trumpet design looks very different from the ATPower ITBs I have seen which have the usual vertical stacks. What’s the reason behind the curved intake?

I’m guessing to tuck the air cleaners further back to allow the decklid to close

David 23 09-24-2018 08:36 AM

Mine. 3.2 short stroke, twin plug. Not quite finished in the pic.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1537806828.jpg

clutch-monkey 09-24-2018 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David 23 (Post 10193155)
Mine. 3.2 short stroke, twin plug. Not quite finished in the pic.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1537806828.jpg

that filter setup looks great. what pattern is the base plate? i.e. is it made to fit the old weber pattern manifold?

TAV 09-24-2018 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sp_cs (Post 10192846)
Hello TAV - the trumpet design looks very different from the ATPower ITBs I have seen which have the usual vertical stacks. What’s the reason behind the curved intake?

Apparently they did some testing with different Inlet tube lengths to give a preferable lower end torque as well. The length they came up with would not fit in the engine bay, hence the curved inlets.

onboost 09-25-2018 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David 23 (Post 10193155)
Mine. 3.2 short stroke, twin plug. Not quite finished in the pic.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1537806828.jpg

What cams, what size ITB, and who's control unit/ECU.. nice job too!

David 23 09-25-2018 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onboost (Post 10194239)
What cams, what size ITB, and who's control unit/ECU.. nice job too!

The engine build and management system is by Rasant Products in Southern California. Cam is GT2 Evo with 108 center. Pauter rods, 10.5:1 CR. I don't have the ITB size at hand, I'll look for it.

BuddaLun 09-25-2018 08:06 AM

Awesome thread!

sp_cs 09-25-2018 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David 23 (Post 10194278)
The engine build and management system is by Rasant Products in Southern California. Cam is GT2 Evo with 108 center. Pauter rods, 10.5:1 CR. I don't have the ITB size at hand, I'll look for it.

Nice clean install - like


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