New Project, SC to RSR Style Hot Rod
 

Ok I finally found the car to start my next hot rod build. I have been searching everywhere and just missed on a couple cars, barely. But I was lucky enough to hear about this car today, it is a local San Diego car with 175K miles, but a straight tub and runs and drives great. Will be removing the engine and trans this weekend and start disassembly. Have already ordered new turbo fenders from Porsche and they will be shipped in from Germany, I was lucky enough to source new factory turbo flares here in SD.

I am aiming to have the car done in time for Monterey, lots of work ahead so I better get off the computer and get ordering stuff!

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Oh boy!!! What will be different about this build? Subscribe ided .

:confused: Hmmm, the color?

The basic car will be a wide body sunroof delete hot rod, thru hood fill, 15" wheels, with a bright color paint job. Maybe some bespoke pieces here and there. Sticking with a touring style car that is comfortable and compliant but definitely not soft.

Seriously after doing the last one there were a lot of people that had said they needed AC and or heat so incorporating that into the build and keeping it uncluttered will be something different and a priority.

The body will be similar, I am really kicking myself for not pulling my own molds off the bumpers of the last one, we spent so much time getting them perfect. This time that will not happen, also I will have my metal guy make several sunroof panels and short hoods into long hoods. After speaking with him last nite he said I can get my price down if he knocks out several at the same time.

This one will come down to bare metal as it had been repainted and there are some areas that filler is cracking so will need to check the car over.

Not sure yet on suspension, been thinking about coil overs but it is not a track car so I'm not sure the extra expense will be a well spent option, but it is bouncing around in my head.

Not sure what to do with the motor but EFI is high on the list, a friend has a complete fresh 3.4 twin plug race motor ready to plug and play, some talk about 3.6 and 3.8 has been going on, need more thought on that I do.

I guess just stay tuned and we'll see what happens!

Looking forward to seeing this one develop.

How can you change to EFI and still be smog legal in California?

I thought that changing the fuel injection in California was against the law?

Thanks,

Rahl

That's a good question.....:confused:

I guess the Beverly Hillbillies were wrong when they said "California is the place to be"

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You could swap to a later motor with EFI and smog it according to the year of the motor provided that all the emissions control equipment appears to be in place and working and it passes the (tougher) sniffer test.

Otherwise you would need an EFI kit that flies under the radar, or temporarily put the CIS back on for the test.

You will enjoy it. Will lose the electric side view mirrors? I kept them as I appreciate the functionality.

off to a good start! again :cool:

Some guys in the UK are rigging up some electric AC that fits wholly in the frunk. It won't be Griffiths performance, but it might take the edge off. I'm not sure how far along they've gotten as the thread died:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/921754-classic-retrofit-lightweight-electric-air-conditioning.html

Modest heat is easy. Just stick some CEET tubing from the engine shroud to a T-spitter to the exhaust headers and on to the flappers. No additional fans needed.

Lots of threads and info on torsion bar suspensions. I'd probably stick with rubber and maybe polybronze. If the car has Bilsteins, having them custom valved will perform better in every way and be cheaper than off-the-shelf components, allowing you to up the spring rate without adding harshness.

In terms of air/fuel delivery, it looks like ITB and EFI is maturing, though I'm not aware of any bolt-on kits yet:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/937142-x-faktory-3-0-pmo-efi-rasant-aem-infinity.html

A 3.6 adds something like $10-20k over a comparable 3.2-based motor (depending on what has been done to either).

Everyone is moving so fast with their RSR tributes that by the time I'm done with mine I'll be another in long line of followers...

Sounds very interesting. Why the 15's and not deep 17's? Is it for ride quality issues or aesthetics?

And I hear you on the heat and AC. You know my thoughts/solutions on the heat topic already. ; ) And I am holding out/hoping for the electric AC system Tremelune is mentioning in his post. I know it needs the massively oversized washer tank removed, which I've already done on my build. I originally did it more for weight that anything. Figure I can carry a squeegee and some cleaning fluid with me n case it ever gets too dirty. : ) Might want to consider doing the same in anticipation of this new AC system.

Good luck and Aloha Brother! I am sure it will be another epic build!:D

15's mostly aesthetics, but ride is nicer, all things being equal anyway, the 15 provides a bit more cushion with them, personally i do not care for the 17's but I would not throw a Singer out because of that.....

The AC will just upgrade with Griffiths or Rennaire parts, the heat will be a simple backdate like Tremelune alluded to.

Love your builds, can't wait to se where this one is going :)

And Merry Christmas - from Denmark.

Ditto. Loved the orange 911. Merry Christmas from Western Australia.

Can't wait to see this!
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+1 on the 15s on tb or P7 corsas

Some more pictures before we get started.
First off trans will be getting rebuilt with new bearings, sliders, synchros, lsd, larger turbo flanges to g50 axles to cope with bigger power
3.0 is going away to make room for 964 based 3.6, full rebuild with larger valves, bigger cams, arp hardware, cp pistons, 12 pin distributor, 50 pmo carbs. I had wanted to go efi on this build but just not happening on this one, hopefully the next one.


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Great stuff! Don't forget to check out our RSR tribute thread while you work on yours: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/930334-finishing-pelican-parts-911-rsr-tribute-project.html. Looking forward to watching your progress.

The weak point of the drivetrain will for sure be the 915 internals. I would build that as strong as money can and not worry about G50 axles (unless they provide some other benefit?).

We built a 915/63 for a customer mating to a 3.6. Put in a Guard limited slip, Wevo bearing plate and a CMS side cover with Turbo bearing. He's used the car hard and it keeps going. The CMS side cover is beefy and not a factory look. I'd use a 915/73 side cover if that was important.

The G50 axles, which started in 86 on the 915/73, are Turbo size and incorporate the drive shaft/stub axle with the main. CV joints are sealed too.

We will be going with a similar setup, Wevo retainer, side cover and turbo bearing with G50 output flanges machined for 915 and G50 axles, not sure on which lsd yet.

Just took off rear bumper and rocker covers in preparation to fit the new genuine porsche 930 flares. Complete bumper was 53 pounds, I did not weigh the rockers but they have to weigh at least 10 pounds also

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Looking good, Dave! Can't wait to see how she turns out.

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I sent you a message in regards to your rear deck lid and both bumpers bro, in your sales thread thanks Jr

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Been gone for a bit but back in action now. I forgot to snap some pictures yesterday as I was picking up parts all over town but here is something I picked up from Efren "blackbyrd" before I left. We were going to go 3.6 but Efren had these brand new Mahle 3.8 P&C so the new motor will now be 3.8 :)

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Back from vacation and back to work, like to thank a couple local San Diego guys Brian Pauter at Pauter Machine for the awesome rods made in house, and Ira Ramin at Tarett Engineering for the killer rsr sways made in house in SD. Doing my part to make America Great Again, and support the local guys that create some of the best products on the globe.


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Subscribed. Exciting project!

mmm,,...new parts. At this rate, you'll have 2 tribute cars done before I get my single one done. ; )

Where did you get the brakes?

You can buy the brakes from Porsche, it is less expensive than buying used ones, kind of. Last year I bought a set of used brakes, but to get them back to new would have cost an additional $1,500 plus shipping both ways. For less money I had brand new brakes not restored, which are very nice, but used none the less

Excellent!! Looking forward to watching this unfold! Love seeing all the goodies sorted out on the floor :)

More boxes today, 60 pounds worth of noise suppression and thermal insulation from Second Skin Audio and what ITG calls their "sausage" style air filters, I can't wait to see how these look on the motor.

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Nice Porsche porn, subscribed!

Thanks,
Eddy

Nice Project. I hope you make Monterey so I can check it out in person.
FYI IF you don't have a room booked you need to get that done. I just booked last week and there are not a lot of choices left. Most hotels are booked solid. Of course the $1,700.00 per night resorts still have plenty of space if your're into that sort of thing.

Where did you get the center fill gas tank part? What is your intended procedure for that, new tank or utilize the existing? Also curious where you found the yellow lenses. Subscribed.

The yellow lenses are from Eric Linden at Auto Foreign Services.

When I cut the hole for the center fill I will determine if I need to go with a new one or use the existing one.

I got the center fill from a friend, he sourced it in Germany.

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Trans being rebuilt with new synchros, dog teeth, wevo bearing retainer plate, wevo side cover with larger differential carrier bearing, precision shift joint, g50 output flanges and g50 axles and lsd.