I agree on the paint system comment Jurgen. The fact that they will prep it is still attractive, as is the other freebees. Judging from comments on Paul's threads, I think getting the vendor to prep it, but not prime it may be a good way to go. If the glass and resin need to fully cure, putting primer on it may not be smart. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable will chime in.

Also, if the part should be full cured before paint, I would fit and mount the parts on my car, then let it cure insitu. That may prevent some of the warping and fitting issues others have reported.

CTR
 

Hey gang,
I had a few more questions which I needed answering, so I gave a call myself to the folks that Souk is voting for. Anyway, with regard to the priming/painting issue, I was told they use a 2 component acrylic urethane primer with flex additive which is good stuff and no paint folks should have a problem painting over it. Most importantly, he told me that he would have no problem using different primers for different people if that is what they wanted, ie. if you want to use PPG paint he will use a PPG primer. Additionaly, in terms of the curing issue, he said if you use a good resin you should have less problems associated with the curing issue. He did say that we should mount the parts and then put a heat lamp on it for a day or so, or set it out in some warm sunshine to help with that issue.
In case you haven't guessed, I think my mind is made up. This supplier said he would go out of his way to make sure this group was taken care of and the parts were of excellent finish and quality. I asked about a few other issues, so if you have more questions, post them, somebody may know the answer without bombarding the vendor with phone calls and questions like I did.
Brian

Ummm, no questions left from me. I know who I'm going to choose. :)

Jurgen

As far as a prepped bumper goes, pretty much any body shop that is worth a damn is going to insist on stripping the bumper. They just don't know the quality and products used. So unless you are doing your own that pretty much is a non issue.


As far as the bumpers behind the bumper caps are concerned, They look like they are just in the center of the car. It seems to me they would do little if any, to protect in a crash. It also seems that if you do get in a little fender bender what might have just cracked your fiberglass i.e. bump... is now going to bend your car.

If crash safety is your main concern I would'nt be looking at these,
RUF designed them to take of 150#'s or so off your car to help you go 211mph. I have heard the Getty rumor from a few different people, I don't think that is a bad thing they are considered one of the best. I am still leaning towards Reenspeed
if it matters.

Agree with you there, piedogger. The nerf bars are like sugar pills. I really doubt they will do anything in a crash. Maybe if you ran into the bumper with a bicycle it would help.

Jurgen

Ya, I personaly think the bumpers would cause more damage.
That's pretty cool about using any product for prep but you will find If the shop is going to waranty it they will want to do it. A paint job is only as good as the prep work. If they have any problem they will blame that prep work even if it is better than they would do. Just my .02

Brian, good work.

So what are the other guys thinking????

I agree that nerf bar wont give much protection. In any low impact collision, I hope the f-glass will crack and deform without bending my fenders and quarters! Argh!

In a slightly higher impact event the bars will help, but it wont give you the protection of the stock bumpers. I would like a small peace of mind since I will be driving my car daily. Any additional impact pretection may be a good thing in my situation.

Parts curing seems to be common with all the parts. Not a big issue.

I would definitely mount them before I paint. They'll be mounted and the car will sit in the garage with the propane heater on now and then. It'll be so toasty in there that I'll want to stare at the car all night :)

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(evil souk) Yeow baby! I want them saucers.

(good souk) No way man, that's like putting clown feet on a toddler. My car will flip over....or my lovely lady will flip me off if I get those (can't wait to see the final price). :)

Saucers!

With Grabbers! Eric, these are calling your name.

I may have a source for some rubber for the front lip. There is a rubber supply place in town that just gave me some strips one time. They use it for these huge conveyor belts on coal mines. It is really tuff, but I am not sure it will shine as nicely as Bills Ruf piece does. It would most likely have to be cut with a band saw or something, certainly much tougher than the factory piece on my car. I would be willing to see what they have and report back. It is made like a tire more or less w/o treads.

John, That would be great, thanks in advance.

HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't need those .. hell my car is light enough and , **** man! those will rip ya out of yer seat belts.. seta, harness and all.. will pull right thru the tub !
HAHHAHAHHA I lov'em!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Eric

I think it is time to buy guys, DE season is approaching and I am ready to do this if I am at all. souk, let's rock!

I'm still waiting for people to reply. so far I think 5 or 6 have e-mailed me. I have another tidbit to add to the page...got to do the family thing right now, but I'll post it later tonight.

So this is a call for votes, please :(

One of the vendors sent me a picture of their nerf bar (Thanks). If you can't figure out who it is, e-mail me. I'm swamped right now (consulting sucks sometimes because you can't always control your schedule), but I will try to update the webpage. This was quick and easy.'



PLEASE SEND IN YOUR VOTES. (I'm starting to feel like an armless man standing on a rock 100 yards out and the tide is rising :( :) )



http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...ed bar BBS.JPG

Still waiting for reply guys. Did my new Avatar scare some of you away? :)

Here is what I got in today. Performance Products Nurf Bars and a set of CTR bumpers from Shaw. My body shop guy likes the bumpers and mentioned that the nurf bars will also make a good heat sink on the rear for the muffler heat and easier on the fiberglass.
Bars fit up perfectly. They look a little bigger than the others posted above, and a little heavier I suspect. All the parts looked pretty good from my point of view. Can't wait to see all the cars finished up.

http://www.standingwave.org/albums/r.../afl.sized.jpg

http://www.standingwave.org/albums/r.../afn.sized.jpg

Sweet! Are the BB bars made of sheet metal? Or channel iron? Any pictures of the backsides of the bumpers?