Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Porsche Forums > Porsche 928 Technical Forum


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rating: Thread Rating: 1 votes, 4.00 average.
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Registered
 
europorsche914's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 83
Garage
Mythbusters Ruins a 928

Tonights mythbusters show they destroy a 928 by cutting the outer body off the chassis (frame rails) and flip it around so the rear of the car is now the front... Mythbusters Tests The Porsche 928's Aerodynamics... In Reverse


Old 11-17-2010, 05:37 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Registered
 
europorsche914's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 83
Garage
btw encore episode at 12:00am on discovery
Old 11-17-2010, 07:04 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Network Native
 
Danglerb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: SoCal
Posts: 10,349
Car was pretty bad shape to start with.
Old 11-17-2010, 08:54 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Banned
 
Normy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Ft.Lauderdale, FLORIDA
Posts: 2,813
So did it coast farther with a reverse body?

N
Old 11-18-2010, 12:15 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Owasso, OK
Posts: 386
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Normy View Post
So did it coast farther with a reverse body?

N
No, every test busted the reverse theory.

BTW did anyone see how they handled airflow through the radiator on the reversal?
__________________
Dennis
Old 11-18-2010, 04:44 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Registered
 
harborman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: SW MIchigan
Posts: 2,236
Garage
They do some stupid things on that show. Why not test Toyota gas and brakes instead of destroying a 928 classic, idiots!.
Quote:


Quote de Normy



So did it coast farther with a reverse body?



N


No, every test busted the reverse theory.



BTW did anyone see how they handled airflow through the radiator on the reversal?
Old 11-18-2010, 05:47 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
Registered
 
Herr-Kuhn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 1,019
While these two guys would like to think they are Engineers, they clearly are not. Testing 0-60 was totally meaningless since there are far too many variables going on to point to one thing as the cause of a lower 0-60 time.

They could have stopped at the wind tunnel test...that seemed to tell the story to me.

Clearly the car was a Euro...and at that it was in pretty decent shape. Certainly worth keeping...they coudl have easily picked a ratty early US car for this test and saved a bunch of money.

Maybe the car will get some publicity off of this. I love the way they never mentioned the word Porsche or 928...that would have for sure gotten them a letter from Porsche's NA attorney.

They should spend time testing the old guy's face aerodynamics with and without that flavah-savah of a beard he wears.

It was a disgusting show to watch. The 928 has a better coeffecient of drag than the 911s of the same era.
__________________
Kuhn Performance Technologies, LLC
Big Gun: 1988 928S4 Twin Turbo, 5-SPD/LSD 572 RWHP, 579 RW ft-lbs, 12 psig manifold pressure. Stock Internals, 93 octane.
Little Gun: 1981 928 Competition Package Twin Turbo, 375 RWHP, 415 RW ft-lbs, 10psig manifold pressure. Nikasil Block, JE2618 Pistons, 93 octane.
Old 11-18-2010, 06:00 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Registered
 
Herr-Kuhn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 1,019
Wow, Toyota gas and brakes...that's a lawsuit waiting to happen. Where I used to work, my old boss made all the top managers buy the book "The Toyota Way". Then he put in what he said was lean manufacturing, Kanban, etc. It was a joke...he actually made people do book study time and report back on chapters in the book. When he found out I drove an Audi (Oddie as he called it), he told me he had owned on and they were junk. When I asked what he drove he told me a Lexus ES. To this I responded "oh, that's the one built on the Camry chassis". He fed me some line of BS about how the car had more spot welds than the Camry and that you could just tell how much higher the quality was in the Lexus than in American made cars.

The same moron tried to tell the president of the company that the 928 was a "slow" Porsche. I made him look like a fool for making that comment.

The best part came when I nearly made him **** his pants in the right seat of my twin turbo.

Still, when I think back the only words that come to mind are "what a prick".
__________________
Kuhn Performance Technologies, LLC
Big Gun: 1988 928S4 Twin Turbo, 5-SPD/LSD 572 RWHP, 579 RW ft-lbs, 12 psig manifold pressure. Stock Internals, 93 octane.
Little Gun: 1981 928 Competition Package Twin Turbo, 375 RWHP, 415 RW ft-lbs, 10psig manifold pressure. Nikasil Block, JE2618 Pistons, 93 octane.
Old 11-18-2010, 06:06 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
Architecture & Porsche's
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 3,189
I did notice that the euro car had fresh paint: I think they chose a ratty euro & had a Maaco paint job where the rear letters were filled in (anyone catch that??) just before the show: shiny paint, no dents, no rock chips (when they were removing the front bumper cover in the shop). 8 sec 0-60? ouch. 78-79 euro I'd suspect. I didn't get a good look at the intake to see the CIS lines on it, but side markers & rear are clearly euro.
__________________
Porsche Club Racing National Scrutineer
'89 Andial 951
'82 928R
'74 911 RSR 3.6
Old 11-18-2010, 06:33 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
Registered
 
Herr-Kuhn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 1,019
It was a later car...the interior would say 1985 or 1986.
__________________
Kuhn Performance Technologies, LLC
Big Gun: 1988 928S4 Twin Turbo, 5-SPD/LSD 572 RWHP, 579 RW ft-lbs, 12 psig manifold pressure. Stock Internals, 93 octane.
Little Gun: 1981 928 Competition Package Twin Turbo, 375 RWHP, 415 RW ft-lbs, 10psig manifold pressure. Nikasil Block, JE2618 Pistons, 93 octane.
Old 11-18-2010, 07:47 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #10 (permalink)
Architecture & Porsche's
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 3,189
seats where, wheels were not, nor was lack of rear spoiler. Plus anything newer than '80 would be 300+hp & be faster than 8 seconds 0-60. an '81 euro auto on the dyno 3 years ago still made 250rwhp/tq
__________________
Porsche Club Racing National Scrutineer
'89 Andial 951
'82 928R
'74 911 RSR 3.6
Old 11-18-2010, 07:55 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #11 (permalink)
80 928
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Nevada
Posts: 789
Garage
Saw the show last night. I like Adam and Jaime, but.....

1) Destroying a 928 like that...Bad form
2) 0-60 in 8 sec... believable for an automatic. 14 sec quarter mile..? I call Bull****.
3) In the final analysis, they discovered that the Porsche engineers actually did know what they were doing, when they designed the body......sigh..

We could have told them that, I guess it makes for good television.
At least Carrie Byron is hot.
-K
Old 11-18-2010, 07:59 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #12 (permalink)
Architecture & Porsche's
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 3,189
Carrie is smoking hot!
__________________
Porsche Club Racing National Scrutineer
'89 Andial 951
'82 928R
'74 911 RSR 3.6
Old 11-18-2010, 08:01 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #13 (permalink)
Registered
 
Herr-Kuhn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 1,019
And to think people gave me s*it for cutting open my front bumper cover.
__________________
Kuhn Performance Technologies, LLC
Big Gun: 1988 928S4 Twin Turbo, 5-SPD/LSD 572 RWHP, 579 RW ft-lbs, 12 psig manifold pressure. Stock Internals, 93 octane.
Little Gun: 1981 928 Competition Package Twin Turbo, 375 RWHP, 415 RW ft-lbs, 10psig manifold pressure. Nikasil Block, JE2618 Pistons, 93 octane.
Old 11-18-2010, 08:06 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #14 (permalink)
European Shark
 
riber.bentsen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Aarhus, Denmark (Europe)
Posts: 773
Garage
The car was an 86 (late seats) 310 hp Euro car (twin dizzy), and as much as I love Mythbusters, I HATE them for destroying a car like that.

And they must have added too much weight. 86 Euro with slushbox should be in the 6 sec area.
__________________
1978 Porsche 928 Euro 5spd. Silver metallic/Black
1986 Porsche 928 S2 Euro 5spd. Meteormetallic/Grey. *Crashed*
Owning a 928 is risky business - but sometimes you just gotta say "what the fudge".
Old 11-18-2010, 08:09 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #15 (permalink)
Architecture & Porsche's
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 3,189
ah I didn't see the part where they showed a good engine shot. explains the 14 second quarter, but the 0-60 seems way off, unless it was starting in 2nd gear as it sounded like.
__________________
Porsche Club Racing National Scrutineer
'89 Andial 951
'82 928R
'74 911 RSR 3.6
Old 11-18-2010, 08:39 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #16 (permalink)
Moderator
 
MPDano's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Sunny San Diego
Posts: 9,025
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Herr-Kuhn View Post
And to think people gave me s*it for cutting open my front bumper cover.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here, but I don't think your talking about Pelican people.
__________________
1981 Porsche 928 "Euro" Auto Gunsmoke Metallic Flat - Black Interior
1983 Porsche 928S "US" Auto Light Bronze (Copper) Metallic - Brown Interior **SOLD**
Old 11-18-2010, 09:17 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #17 (permalink)
Registered
 
Herr-Kuhn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 1,019
The arguement on cutting the bumper usually went like this...

"You have to cut up the car to fit the turbos, there are no holes in my car for the supercharger installation"

The part I found ultra-ironic was a lot of the same people making those kind of statements were hammering and rolling rear fenders to fit wheels that are simply too big for the 928.

If I install an ABS from a 1988 into an early chassis and I cut to make it fit have I sinned in the eyes of the 928 gods? To each his or her own I guess.

Clearly this is all pety compared to what these guys did to the test car...no way that one will ever ride again.
__________________
Kuhn Performance Technologies, LLC
Big Gun: 1988 928S4 Twin Turbo, 5-SPD/LSD 572 RWHP, 579 RW ft-lbs, 12 psig manifold pressure. Stock Internals, 93 octane.
Little Gun: 1981 928 Competition Package Twin Turbo, 375 RWHP, 415 RW ft-lbs, 10psig manifold pressure. Nikasil Block, JE2618 Pistons, 93 octane.
Old 11-18-2010, 12:03 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #18 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: florida
Posts: 487
OH no you did it now . 123 here they come.
__________________
The beast 1984 928s twin turbo 5speed LSD/ 508.6RWHP 495RW ft lbs 12.5 psig manifold pressure, MS2 and EDIS-8 nikasil block JE 2618 pistons (TripleT). 2001 AUDI A6 4.2 chip 320 hp. 2002 CHEV Tahoe 4wd. 1971 sonett race car GT4 National Champion now GTL class car sold. The words of a Ford GT man. ( Damit i need to get some turbos)

Last edited by sonett3; 11-18-2010 at 12:11 PM..
Old 11-18-2010, 12:09 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #19 (permalink)
Registered
 
Herr-Kuhn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 1,019
Stop stirring the pot...

__________________
Kuhn Performance Technologies, LLC
Big Gun: 1988 928S4 Twin Turbo, 5-SPD/LSD 572 RWHP, 579 RW ft-lbs, 12 psig manifold pressure. Stock Internals, 93 octane.
Little Gun: 1981 928 Competition Package Twin Turbo, 375 RWHP, 415 RW ft-lbs, 10psig manifold pressure. Nikasil Block, JE2618 Pistons, 93 octane.
Old 11-18-2010, 12:23 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #20 (permalink)
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:24 PM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.