Conversion (73 RSR vs 74 RSR)

[Mike Hall]

You have to admit that this is one sharp looking car too.

[xbrumossalesman]

Mike - Sorry but I'm not seeing it but then again my last 911 was a wide body cabriolet that I had the fenders vented with boxed rockers.

[Mike Hall]

Hahaha, I just want to avoid fiberglass. Now if I have a pocket full of money, I would go all carbon fiber which would have an appeal to it but when I think of a fiberglass bodied car, It is just not appealing to me. Not saying a fiberglass car can not be built super nice, I just am not fond of it. How could I create the vented front fenders without using glass? So far, all I have on the way are steel flairs and turbo Quarters. I can still go either way with it.

Mike

[xbrumossalesman]

Take the vented glass fenders & use them as a template for steel or carbon fiber-somebody will buy them after you use them - remember it's a 1974 car & they didn't have carbon fiber or kevlar back then they made it work with fiberglass & were very creative with the bodywork as the car transitioned into the 935 & morphed on from there. To me the 74 RSR is the last of the showroom sillouette cars- even though Brumos made one into a long tail version that was 4 seconds a lap faster than the rest of the field so it was disqualified for the unacceptable body design.

[Stuggie-73]

Originally Posted by Mike Hall

You have to admit that this is one sharp looking car too.

Yes and no . . .

IMO (and I stress only IMO) the early cars look ill-proportioned with larger (17") diameter wheels.

The rear quarter panel shape on the gray car leaves a lot to be desired too, look at the rear arches in the pictures of the yellow '73 car I posted, they're a totally different (and unique) shape. The turbo arches and the '73 RSR arches are NOT the same thing by any stretch of the imagination !

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[Mike Hall]

I agree on the wheels but is there a custom 16" fuch style wheel that would fit over 964 brakes or even upgraded 993TT brakes? I am sure I will be doing a brake upgrade and I bet there are no 16" fuchs that would fit over the brakes as well as have the correct offset. I do agree that the early cars need more rubber showing though.

Mike

[Flieger]

Zuffenhaus and Jeff Alton makes 17inch Fuchs. You could always go for 930 brakes (917 derived), those fit under 15inch Fuchs.

[Mike Hall]

But would 930 brakes mount up to 964 uprights and trailing arms? Also, is it possible to have custom 15" fuchs made for the offset that would be needed on a 964 based car?

Mike

[Flieger]

I know a UK company makes 964 offset Fuchs replicas.

I would ask Bill Verburg about bolting 930s to a 964. I suspect you can use a caliper adapter at least. Not sure about the rotor.

[Stuggie-73]

I think you could get away with some 16" Fuchs replicas, that would allow you to utilise the standard brake set up (maybe with some uprated pads, discs, fluid and lines)

The 17" wheels look almost cartoonish, but I think the 16'' versions would look less so.

[Mike Hall]

Besides that, I want my car to sit nice and level and the taller wheel/tire combo that the 17" will provide cause the rear of the car to sit up too high for my taste. I have been trying to figure out how to get the car sitting level if I am stuck with 17" wheel but it may not be possible unless I lift the front which is not what I want to do. I will be researching the use of 15/16" fuchs on this project for sure.

Mike

[ej911]

Not trying to revive an old thread, but the wheels on the gray car are 18".