Conversion (73 RSR vs 74 RSR)

Mike Hall · 03-18-2011, 03:14 PM

I am torn on which to go with. I like the long hood cars but I also like the aggressive look of the short hood cars as well. My car is a 92 964 coupe in slate gray which I will keep as the color. One thing I guess I need to check into is a 74 RSR style wheel without having to go with Knock off type. I know there will be a bit more work involved in a correct 73 RSR but I am not afraid of digging in deep. hahaha What do you guys think?

Mike

Flieger · Flieger's Garage

I actually like the 74 RSR better. If you are using the RS flares, then do the 73.

With the 74, the wider the better.

Mike Hall · 03-18-2011, 05:08 PM

The only issue I have the the 74 RSR is I want to keep it all metal and those intakes on the quarters might have to be made in glass. I guess I could pull it off in steel but glass would be easier. I am not too fond of the glass bonded to the steel.

Mike

xbrumossalesman · 03-18-2011, 06:36 PM

Mike- the 74 RSR is the baddest of the bad- with those vented fenders & giganitc wheels & tires it is a black hat dude- as far as the glass vs steel flares I wouldn't be afraid of the glass -it sounds like you do good work- I doubt you will thrash it harder than they were run back in the day & you can find some reproduction wheels that look like the centerlocks.

Truthfully, as great as the '73 RSR is sometimes you need to do a double take to realize what you are looking at but there is no mistaking the '74.

Mike Hall · 03-18-2011, 06:52 PM

I agree, that 74 RSR is bad to the bone looking. One thing I want to keep in mind is that the badder the car looks the more I will have to do in order to back it up. hahaha I originally wanted to build a RS car but there is no way to get a deep enough offset on a 964 to look good so that is why I am opting to do an RSR.

On another note, do you think the 74 RSR without the vented front fenders is a bad idea? I just do not like the idea of all that glass being on my car even though it may be fine. Now if I could get some glass parts, create a mold, then produce myself some carbon parts I would not shy away from that as I could see that having some value but, just plain old fiberglass is not appealing to me. I had enough fiberglass when I build this car back in 2000. hahaha

Mike

Flieger · Flieger's Garage

You can use 930 flares. The vented flares are RSR 3.0 flares. IROC 3.0 RS actually have the 930 width flares with no vents.

Mike Hall · 03-18-2011, 07:47 PM

Thanks for that info. So would this be an accurate representation of a IROC 3.0 RS?

Mike

Flieger · Flieger's Garage

Pretty much.

Mike Hall · 03-18-2011, 08:16 PM

That car looks pretty darn good to me. I am so torn on which conversion to go with.

Mike

Flieger · Flieger's Garage

Well, I would do 74 mainly because it is easier to do when starting with a short hood (which your 964 is).

xbrumossalesman · 03-19-2011, 06:53 AM

Mike- the vents make the car- go all in or nothing at all- as great as the white car you pictured is check out a white RSR- big difference- as for performance you should be able to get there pretty easy- remember that car was built for endurance & passed many a high horsepower prototype pulled off to the side of the track.

Mike Hall · 03-20-2011, 05:21 PM

Well, I have front and rear flares on the way so I am getting more and more committed to this conversion idea. hahaha I want to keep the car steel so I guess unless I get creative and cut into the steel fares, I will be doing an IROC or maybe still go with a 73 RSR. I figure I still have a little time to decide. the IROC would be less work but, half the fun is working on these cars right? I love a good project so I am not afraid of the mods needed to do a 73. I guess I will start a build thread soon as parts should start arriving soon and I am itching to get started.

Mike

xbrumossalesman · 03-21-2011, 06:42 AM

Mike- if there is still reasonable doubt there are pictures somewhere on this website that I have stumbled across before of a Gray '74 RSR with an Orange stripe that will make you change your mind- it is one of the best looking RSR s I have ever seen & I am partial to a white car with red & blue trim.

After seeing your work on the Speedster it looks like you have the skills to build a winner.

Mike Hall · 03-21-2011, 06:50 AM

I have built two fiberglass cars one being the speedster which was a very old CMC and also a factory five Cobra replica. I have to say I do not miss the itching and poor fit of the parts. I know for this project it would not be near as involved as far as the glass goes but, I just have something against glass now. hahaha I just enjoy working with metal and there is no reason why I couldn't create a 74 RSR in steel even if it was more work I would be more proud of it. hahaha

I figured the speedster would get bashed as its a replica but here are a few more pictures. I built is for my now Ex wife and I went a little overboard on the power plant and it was a beast to drive. hahaha Ignore the shifter and the unfinished look of the interior as I was not finish with it yet.

xbrumossalesman · 03-21-2011, 07:03 AM

The speedster looks killer even though it is not an original - I had a '66 Chevelle with a shifter like that- you'd have a unique (meaning more $ when you sell) car if you crafted those vented fenders in steel.

Mike Hall · 03-21-2011, 08:58 AM

I am going to get the 930 quarters here and see what might be involved in creating the vents in them. Metal work does not scare me one bit. hahahaha

Mike

xbrumossalesman · 03-21-2011, 10:25 AM

That's good news-Try to find that Gray / Orange Stripe RSR I was telling you about- or maybe one of the guys can move it to this thread but that car will get you off the fence.

Stuggie-73 · 03-21-2011, 02:25 PM

The '73 RSR is a thing of beauty the last real short bonnet race car.

The '74 car is a brutal looking race car . . . . .

Personally I think the '73 car is the more classic Porsche shape (but then I'm biased . . . . ! ! )

Mike Hall · 03-21-2011, 02:33 PM

The 74 is one mean looking machine for sure. I just am not the type that likes all show and no go though. hahaha. That solid gray 74 is one good looking car though.

Mike

xbrumossalesman · 03-21-2011, 04:50 PM

Mike- I agree with you on the looks vs performance issue but keep in mind that despite the ground pounder looks the RSR was not a turbo - both cars were in the 300-315 hp range so regardless of which body you choose you'll have to step up the horsepower-I know it's easy for me to sit here & spend your money but how about that Gray car ?