How do you correctly navigate a 90* turn?

[aston@ultrasw.c]

Originally Posted by sugarwood

Right turn.

Which side of the road are you on when you turn in?

[crashmy911]

Go in hot! Then lift and turn! When your going where you want get back on the gas.

[sugarwood]

Originally Posted by crashmy911

Go in hot! Then lift and turn! When your going where you want get back on the gas.

The "don't lift" thing about the 911 is wildly exaggerated. It's almost impossible to break the rear loose by lifting. No one drives like that except on a skid pad.

[RichardNew]

crashmy911 knows what to do. It's all about the rotation. It's also great fun.

Derek Bell taught me the rotation trick decades ago.

Richard Newton

[333pg333]

Originally Posted by winders

You are on the street. Of course there is going to be "dead zone". You can't drive on the street like you would on the track.

I know many racers that don't heel/toe and there is no dead zone for them on the track.

"Many racers that don't heel / toe"...sounds odd....why wouldn't any competent racer heel / toe. In fact why would anyone that doesn't have a physical limitation not heel / toe? 101 driving.

[winders]

Originally Posted by winders

I know many racers that don't heel/toe...

Originally Posted by 333pg333

"Many racers that don't heel / toe"...sounds odd....why wouldn't any competent racer heel / toe. In fact why would anyone that doesn't have a physical limitation not heel / toe? 101 driving.

No, not many racers out of all racers. I don't know all racers so when I say "many" it is many of the subset of racers I know. It means "numerous". I probably know of 15 to 20 racers that don't heel/toe. Some don't because they physically can't. Some don't because they have never learned or never got the hang of it. Some don't because they are new to the sport and still haven't figured it out yet.

I could drive around one of the most technical tracks in the US, not heel/toe, and lose very little time.

It is certainly better to heel/toe but it is not necessary. Those that don't know how to do it should learn.

[stownsen914]

Originally Posted by sugarwood

The "don't lift" thing about the 911 is wildly exaggerated. It's almost impossible to break the rear loose by lifting. No one drives like that except on a skid pad.

You're just not going fast enough . I wouldn't try it on public roads, but on track it's not hard at all in an older 911 ...

[333pg333]

Originally Posted by winders

No, not many racers out of all racers. I don't know all racers so when I say "many" it is many of the subset of racers I know. It means "numerous". I probably know of 15 to 20 racers that don't heel/toe. Some don't because they physically can't. Some don't because they have never learned or never got the hang of it. Some don't because they are new to the sport and still haven't figured it out yet.

I could drive around one of the most technical tracks in the US, not heel/toe, and lose very little time.

It is certainly better to heel/toe but it is not necessary. Those that don't know how to do it should learn.

I've never seen video of top line drivers who don't have innate high level skill with their feet. Seen plenty of amateurs who don't heel / toe to their cars and laptimes detriment. Agreed that it is a fundamental skill that should be learnt. Not hard to do at all. Most would be self taught.