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Toro Rosso is run like a little team that was eaten by a big team. Their expectations for the drivers are that they must be ready from Day 1. No driver development time. You're either quick or you're out. I imagine there must be a similar type of standard for race team and engineering personnel.

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Toro Rosso is run like a little team that was eaten by a big team. Their expectations for the drivers are that they must be ready from Day 1. No driver development time. You're either quick or you're out. I imagine there must be a similar type of standard for race team and engineering personnel.
When it comes to drivers, if there isn't turn over, how do you find the new talent?

Its the chance of a life time, the greatest will make it.
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Maybe it will work out better providing they don't cheat people again.
Don't understand this comment
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When it comes to drivers, if there isn't turn over, how do you find the new talent?

Its the chance of a life time, the greatest will make it.
That's circular reasoning. You need to fire drivers because you need to replace them, right?

As for finding new talent, that's what Formula 4, Formula 3, Formula2, Formula Renault, etc etc etc etc are all about.
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Taking sponsors money, then not honoring the contract and putting what the sponsor paid for on display.

2014/2015 issue IIRC.

Not an ethical move to make. Took a long legal game to bring about somewhat of a restitution.

My impression at the time is the execs behind the decision shouldn't stay, tainted team.
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Maurice Hamilton has an article on a Peter Sauber on ESPN, sounds like a guy who overcame a lot to succeed. No mention of any impropriety. Maurice would know, been around forever
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Taking sponsors money, then not honoring the contract and putting what the sponsor paid for on display.

2014/2015 issue IIRC.

Not an ethical move to make. Took a long legal game to bring about somewhat of a restitution.

My impression at the time is the execs behind the decision shouldn't stay, tainted team.
Don’t know if you can blame Peter Sauber for that. Monisha Kaltenborn was the Sauber team principal at that time.
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Don’t know if you can blame Peter Sauber for that. Monisha Kaltenborn was the Sauber team principal at that time.
Yes, but still it was the company name.

Money was paid for a particular space for one of the cars.

Sauber double booked, took money from two different sources for that same space.

Then they dragged it out in a helluva legal process.

Not the greatest of PR stunts for potential future partnerships involving money transfers to Sauber.

The name change can help them "walk away" from that piece of history.
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Not long before we start to see the new cars!


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A lot of work in a front wing, hope you're making good progress on the first race wing and by the end of the year you'll have designed so many of you should be quite good at it

At the end of many new car designs I'd invested so much time, effort, stress and my life into designing new parts/assemblies I sometimes only felt resentment with occasional twinges of pride and was glad to see it leave for the first test.

Always made sure I had fun along the way too so it wasn't all bad

Won, sounds corny but make sure you take time to reflect on and absorb where/how/what and who is around you
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That. Is. Very. Cool.

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Not long before we start to see the new cars! The first wing with my name on it, proper:


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Thats great Won! Given the new regulations, your front wing is more important than ever.
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I like the look of the new Haas cars very clean looking with a little John Player Special look from the past . I am hoping for a very competitive year from Haas and Alfa Romeo .


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interesting take on the upcoming season

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I am also going to cheer for the Silver Arrows, too. First time in a number of years.
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So far the new Williams looks like the old mercedes, The new Haas looks like the old Lotus-Renault, the new Toro rosso looks exactly like the old toro rosso, and MacLaren is bringing BAT back.
"plus ça change, plus c'est la meme chose".
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There is no way that's the real front wing of the Williams. And the new Toro looks like the old Red Bull.

I can't wait to see the new McLaren, and the new Merc. I am hoping Williams come back strong too.
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There is no way that's the real front wing of the Williams. And the new Toro looks like the old Red Bull.

I can't wait to see the new McLaren, and the new Merc. I am hoping Williams come back strong too.
Williams, my favorite team, that front wing, the outside uprights, ugly. Good luck!

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