Awesome landing at LHR

[flatbutt]

Originally Posted by Eric Coffey

The old adage...any landing you walk away from is a good landing.

[Eric Coffey]

Originally Posted by flatbutt

The old adage...any landing you walk away from is a good landing.

[Jeff Alton]

Originally Posted by vmax

Amazing video.

I see an airport that needed proper grading before paving, and it is desperately in need of a cross wind runway...

[Jeff Alton]

Although the skill demonstrated in many of the landings in the posted videos is impressive, one must remember they have paying customers on board. These same airlines in the videos ***** and complain when ATC wants a "good rate of descent" and moans when a speed reduction requires the deployment of wing control devices that make noise in the cabin. It makes me laugh when I see crews balk at exceeding a particular deck angle, or creating "waves in the coffee" during routine ops, but then willingly land in those conditions which create extreme passenger discomfort.

A true disconnect between the flight line and the board room. When one of those landings goes wrong, AirFrance in Toronto years ago as an example, what does the crew say to justify their actions?

Cheers

[450knotOffice]

His (the Emirates pilot's) landing was just fine, but he over-ruddered it after he touched down.

[450knotOffice]

Originally Posted by Jeff Alton

Although the skill demonstrated in many of the landings in the posted videos is impressive, one must remember they have paying customers on board. These same airlines in the videos ***** and complain when ATC wants a "good rate of descent" and moans when a speed reduction requires the deployment of wing control devices that make noise in the cabin. It makes me laugh when I see crews balk at exceeding a particular deck angle, or creating "waves in the coffee" during routine ops, but then willingly land in those conditions which create extreme passenger discomfort.

A true disconnect between the flight line and the board room. When one of those landings goes wrong, AirFrance in Toronto years ago as an example, what does the crew say to justify their actions?

Cheers

I'll say that landings in these conditions are NOT common, for one, and for two, unless one knows the whole story of the circumstances that led to these particular crews landing in these very bad conditions, one should refrain from judging them. Most crews are very aware of their passengers' lives at stake back there, and of their own livelihoods. Trust me, the adrenaline levels were probably very high. If they had few options by the time they decided to fly these approaches, then, well, they probably had to at least make the attempts.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by 450knotOffice

(My credentials to make these comments: Major airline captain with approximately 21,000 hours (mostly airline ops) and a rated pilot for 35 years. )

So you're basically a noob?

[masraum]

Originally Posted by Jeff Alton

Although the skill demonstrated in many of the landings in the posted videos is impressive, one must remember they have paying customers on board. These same airlines in the videos ***** and complain when ATC wants a "good rate of descent" and moans when a speed reduction requires the deployment of wing control devices that make noise in the cabin. It makes me laugh when I see crews balk at exceeding a particular deck angle, or creating "waves in the coffee" during routine ops, but then willingly land in those conditions which create extreme passenger discomfort.

A true disconnect between the flight line and the board room. When one of those landings goes wrong, AirFrance in Toronto years ago as an example, what does the crew say to justify their actions?

Cheers

Get me where I'm trying to go where I can walk off the plane into the jetway and I'm good.

[daepp]

Originally Posted by Seahawk

Funny you mentioned that. Naval Air Station North Island had a circular runway back in the old days. See the wind sock, steer plane to pointy end of said wind sock.

Holy smokes - is that Coronado???

[Seahawk]

Originally Posted by daepp

Holy smokes - is that Coronado???

NAS North Island, the Navy Base...Coronado is to the left!



I bought a house in Coronado in 1984 for what I thought (knew) was a huge amount of money. My neighbor was a retired Marine Colonel, nearing 80.

Great guy. He paid 18K for his house...no doubt a huge amount of money