What should consequences be for those that decline the vax?

[Seahawk]

Originally Posted by black73

No one should be forced to take the the vaccine. Instead, those that refuse the vaccine should be on strict house arrest with ankle monitors and stiff fines leading up to incarceration for violations. These people are a threat to public health and safety of the community. They are acting like toddlers and need to be treated as such.

So, you are for a border wall?

Welcome aboard!

[cabmandone]

You're given an ipod with all of Obama's speeches on it and you have to listen to them all in their entirety. You have to pass a test once you've listened to them all and you need to get at least an 85% or you have to listen to them all again.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by cabmando

You're given an ipod with all of Obama's speeches on it and you have to listen to them all in their entirety. You have to pass a test once you've listened to them all and you need to get at least an 85% or you have to listen to them all again.

I think there was a Night Gallery episode where a person sent to (Christian) hell was forced to sit in a senior couples house and watch their vacation photo slides for eternity.

[gordner]

Originally Posted by javadog

I called myself out? What are you, 22?

I’ll tell you what, Bob, let me see if I can help you out here. Perhaps you’ve heard that correlation is not causation. A fairly self-explanatory statement, perhaps you’ve heard it before.

Maybe conservative people support Trump for the same reason they look skeptically at the vaccine. Maybe they think for themselves, as opposed to blindly trusting others. I happen to believe that liberals are more inclined to believe whatever bull**** you throw their direction, thus the success that CNN had during the Trump administration. There wasn’t a more unreliable news network on television, they literally made **** up that they knew was not true, but their audience bought it hook line and sinker, every day for years.

I have learned that you can’t believe much of anything that the media puts forth. The situation is the same with the government, I don’t believe for a New York minute anything that the CDC puts out, without questioning it first. Liberals seem to eat that up.

Liberals are also far more terrified of Covid than conservatives. That’s because they don’t think, they just buy the bull****.

Think hard Bob, you’ll get there.

So Cab cannot criticize the article/author you posted because he doesn't have the required education, but you are capable of questioning the CDC......What background of yours supports that?

[sammyg2]

Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated

You ... must ... comply

[javadog]

Originally Posted by gordner

So Cab cannot criticize the article/author you posted because he doesn't have the required education, but you are capable of questioning the CDC......What background of yours supports that?

Pay attention. When the CDC says one thing, then later on changes their guidance to something diametrically opposed to the first position, you have to wonder why. When they get caught fudging the numbers, ask yourself if that hurt their credibility. Later, when they are tracking some numbers that start to trend away from the administration’s preferred narrative, then they decide out of the blue to quit tracking those numbers, ask yourself with their purpose might be.

Anybody that pays attention can figure those things out.

[Joe Bob]

Go to your room with a .45......figure it out.

[gordner]

Originally Posted by javadog

Pay attention. When the CDC says one thing, then later on changes their guidance to something diametrically opposed to the first position, you have to wonder why. When they get caught fudging the numbers, ask yourself if that hurt their credibility. Later, when they are tracking some numbers that start to trend away from the administration’s preferred narrative, then they decide out of the blue to quit tracking those numbers, ask yourself with their purpose might be.

Anybody that pays attention can figure those things out.

That does not change your lack of ability to question the better educated on the subject. Or maybe your point to cab was absolute bunk. Hmmmm, I wonder.

[VINMAN]

Originally Posted by group911@aol.co

Smugness my foot. Purely transactional. We pay you to serve and protect- us and yourselves. Being the white shirt pencil pusher you claim to be, tell me how you are protecting your minions without requiring about the most simple piece of the protection puzzle there is? Would you cover their workmans comp claim if they didn't wear all the PPE on a medical call. How about letting them go into a fire without their bunkers or on air? Lets see you truthfully fill out claim form where the first thing they ask is whether or not you took all available precautions. Building consensus on a life safety issue? What a joke your fire scenes must look like.
Act like a leader instead of letting your political BS take over.

So now you resort to insults because Im not in agreement?? . Dbag move....

Again. It has zero to do with politics. Not every decision in life is "political".

First of all I'm not paid. I'm a volunteer. As a chief, I fall under the towns Board of Fire Commissioners they would make any "vax" call. Not me. They have already stated they have no plans of a mandate. None of the other paid depts around here are issuing mandates.

"Whiteshirt pencil pusher" Far, far, far from it... I'm a hands on, in the trenches officer. Probably one of the most highly respected chiefs in my county. I'm also a high ranking field officer on the state usar/FEMA team.

"My scenes must be a joke"..... For a moment, I'll drop down to your level and tell you to GFYS


.

[Rikao4]

lol Vinny..
as I told ya long ago...
sooner or later one of us will look down at them..
so..
when he's crying and dying
just offer him a mask...

Rika

[911boost]

I agree Vin, he is a Dbag and I doubt will respond to you.

[group911@aol.co]

My guess is a good part of my family crossed from Europe into Canada and then south to the states- probably not all legally. Immigrants are our greatest assets and given dire enough situations where they come from will do anything to get here.
We tend to forget that the vast majority came as refugees. Virtually everyone that came through Ellis Island was. https://www.history.com/topics/immigration/ellis-island

Originally Posted by Seahawk

On my wife's side, the Ark and the Dove.

My side were Spanish, 1800's into California.

Father was Scottish, second gen from a family off the boat in the late 1800's.

You?

[dtxscott]

Wow.... This vid on mob psychosis may help us understand some of the extreme comments here.



https://youtu.be/09maaUaRT4M?t=277

[Seahawk]

Originally Posted by group911@aol.co

We tend to forget that the vast majority came as refugees

I don't "tend to forget" anything. I know exactly who and where I came from. Never heard of the Ark and Dove, right?

What you have forgotten are your manners. Go find them. I have the utmost respect for Vinnie. We have never met but I know him, know who and what he is.

I'll stand by that.

[Rikao4]

my Ark....

Rika

[javadog]

Originally Posted by gordner

That does not change your lack of ability to question the better educated on the subject. Or maybe your point to cab was absolute bunk. Hmmmm, I wonder.

Got any rebuttal for my comments regarding the CDC, or do you want to fiddle **** around with bull****?

[pavulon]

The hammer came down at my work. Get vaccinated or get out.

[Seahawk]

Originally Posted by Rikao4

my Ark....

One of mine:

[stomachmonkey]

Originally Posted by Seahawk

On my wife's side, the Ark and the Dove.

My side were Spanish, 1800's into California.

Father was Scottish, second gen from a family off the boat in the late 1800's.

You?

Ohh, I wanna get in on this.

Mom's side of the family, all from Switzerland and Germany and except for me, my brother, my mother they are all still there.

My Fathers side all came here legally coupla hundred years ago.

No one really knows from where though, it wasn't actually voluntary.

In fact the exact opposite of voluntary but it was legal so I guess that made it ok?

Just because something is legal does not make it fair, moral, ethical, or right.

Flip side of that, not all things that are not legal are wrong.

The legality of a thing gets codified by a given societies morals and ethics which can and do change over time generally for the better but sadly often enough not.

My general approach when confronted with these issues is to ask if it's fair, moral, ethical, and I worry about the legality last because when it conflicts with the first part, IMHO, it's time to change the legality of the thing.

[KFC911]

Both sides of mine came over from near Stuttgart about 60-70 years before there even was a USA. I "think" the USA just "took" a couple of thousand acres from one of them after the traitors won

What King George giveth .... Pres George taketh