They were never aggressive

[Alan A]

I thought they banned staffies in the 90s. Back when the Sun (or the Mirror) stoked up the proles with pictures of some gyppo in chain mail fighting a pit bull.

As a kid a friend had one and it was a nasty bastard. One of the only two dogs that ever bit me.

[svandamme]

Originally Posted by Alan A

It’s not just pit bull owners. I have a friend with a couple of labs and I’ll bet good money he’d shoot you before he shot one of his dogs too.

The point is .. we arent talking about shooting ones own dog. Or any dogs. Yet you seem to think we are and want to argue you rather shoot me. Which is just dumb

[Alan A]

Originally Posted by svandamme

The point is .. we arent talking about shooting ones own dog. Or any dogs. Yet you seem to think we are and want to argue you rather shoot me. Which is just dumb

You seem to think dogs are worthless. But then you eat horses, so it’s not surprising.

You want to kill an entire breed because of … prejudice. I’m saying there’s a significant number of people that prefer dogs to their fellow humans. I personally would have far less qualms about turning Belgium into a parking lot (although I’d try to leave Gent alone) than kill off a dog breed.

You think that’s dumb, which is fine. I disagree. Which also should be fine.

[svandamme]

Originally Posted by Alan A

You seem to think dogs are worthless. But then you eat horses, so it’s not surprising.

You want to kill an entire breed because of … prejudice. I’m saying there’s a significant number of people that prefer dogs to their fellow humans. I personally would have far less qualms about turning Belgium into a parking lot (although I’d try to leave Gent alone) than kill off a dog breed.

You think that’s dumb, which is fine. I disagree. Which also should be fine.

So much drama. I did not say dogs are worthless..nor do I eat horses

[fintstone]

If your dog kills someone, they should and probably will be put down...otherwise, why even suggest that is the argument here?

Most seem to think owning a Pit is unwise as they seem to kill or maim a lot of folks (who also said they are gentle and loving). As long as one can control theirs and it hurts no one...I guess they are in the clear. If they do not, they deserve harsh punishment as well.

Many do not see a reason to own a breed that has a nature (and the physical capability) that often kills and maims (usually children, women and the elderly). I would agree and think wise folks would simply stop buying/breeding them...and when the one they have passes, move to another dangerous hobby.

It must be difficult to own a dog that you can never let loose or walk close to people when on a leash...that scares most. An ownership which has tremendous liability (could cost you everything you own...maybe even your life or your family's). I am not sure why one would make that choice when there are plenty of other loving, affectionate dogs that need homes.

[Rawknees'Turbo]

Originally Posted by fintstone

If your dog kills someone, they should and probably will be put down...otherwise, why even suggest that is the argument here?

Most seem to think owning a Pit is unwise as they seem to kill or maim a lot of folks (who also said they are gentle and loving). As long as one can control theirs and it hurts no one...I guess they are in the clear. If they do not, they deserve harsh punishment as well.

Many do not see a reason to own a breed that has a nature (and the physical capability) that often kills and maims (usually children, women and the elderly). I would agree and think wise folks would simply stop buying/breeding them...and when the one they have passes, move to another dangerous hobby.

It must be difficult to own a dog that you can never let loose or walk close to people when on a leash...that scares most. An ownership which has tremendous liability (could cost you everything you own...maybe even your life or your family's). I am not sure why one would make that choice when there are plenty of other loving, affectionate dogs that need homes.

I've been menaced twice at work by pits that got out of their owners' property and onto the little airport I work at; the first instance I was out in the open and managed to dissuade the pit's intentions with a face full of pepper spray gel from a pistol-grip bottle that I have with me at all times for such things, and the second time I was working on an aircraft in a hanger and the pit entered and headed straight for me - I jumped into the cockpit and closed the doors faster than I thought I was capable of and the dog walked off shortly after (I then had to alert everyone there that the thing was roaming around and to be on guard). As far as I'm concerned, the owners should face charges of attempted murder, or similar, for allowing their pit to escape confinement and roam on other peoples' property.

[juanbenae]

i bet a certified letter arrive at their place from their insurer that said "you on your own now"

[rcooled]

Originally Posted by fintstone

...a dog that you can never let loose or walk close to people when on a leash...that scares most. I am not sure why one would make that choice...

This is precisely why some..not all..owners do make that choice. The dog gives them a feeling of power and make them seem a bit intimidating: "See, I'm in control of this powerful animal"

[RobFrost]

Originally Posted by Alan A

I thought they banned staffies in the 90s. Back when the Sun (or the Mirror) stoked up the proles with pictures of some gyppo in chain mail fighting a pit bull.

As a kid a friend had one and it was a nasty bastard. One of the only two dogs that ever bit me.

No, still the UK's most popular dog. I certainly wouldn't want one to turn on me though.

There are occasionally pit bulls discovered in the UK, often coming to light by killing somebody since they were outlawed by the dangerous dogs act. We had a spate of pit bulls being passed off as "American Bullys" lately killing people, something like six out of the last ten killings were those, despite being rare dogs as a proportion of the overall uk dog population.

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[Willem Fick]

I have two friends who's "pitty", "that ate from their hands", turned on them about two weeks ago.

The wife was attacked first, and then the husband when he rushed outside to her aid. She looks like a bomb victim, and he only slightly better, as he is a very strong man and fortunately managed to ultimately strangle the dog to death during their scuffle.

The pictures are beyond sickening, as the flesh was torn off of her right to her bones. She is still getting her wounds cleaned under sedation in theatre every day at this point, and the doctors recon the chances of her retaining the function of at least her left arm is less than 30%, with the jury out as to whether the right will have to be amputated.

I am sure they are great dogs, but there is a reason why Russian Roulette is not an Olympic sport.

[gsxrken]

Must be a horrible death, getting killed by a dog. They don’t have a throat clamp or suffocating instinct like big cats. Just death by a thousand cuts.

[herr_oberst]

Originally Posted by Willem Fick

I have two friends who's "pitty", "that ate from their hands", turned on them about two weeks ago.

That is horrible. I just can't imagine two lives completely and utterly overturned in the blink of an eye because of a pet dog.

I have a pit story that I don't tell because it takes too long. Ultimately it ended fine, but when I read these anecdotes I get a case of the creeps that lasts and lasts because of how wrong it could have gone - as illustrated here.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by Willem Fick

I have two friends who's "pitty", "that ate from their hands", turned on them about two weeks ago.

The wife was attacked first, and then the husband when he rushed outside to her aid. She looks like a bomb victim, and he only slightly better, as he is a very strong man and fortunately managed to ultimately strangle the dog to death during their scuffle.

The pictures are beyond sickening, as the flesh was torn off of her right to her bones. She is still getting her wounds cleaned under sedation in theatre every day at this point, and the doctors recon the chances of her retaining the function of at least her left arm is less than 30%, with the jury out as to whether the right will have to be amputated.

I am sure they are great dogs, but there is a reason why Russian Roulette is not an Olympic sport.

Wow, that's really horrible! Best wishes for your friends' recovery.

On a less depressing note, it's good to see that you're still around, Willem. You've been around a long time. I hope you're doing well.

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by Willem Fick

I have two friends who's "pitty", "that ate from their hands", turned on them about two weeks ago.

The wife was attacked first, and then the husband when he rushed outside to her aid. She looks like a bomb victim, and he only slightly better, as he is a very strong man and fortunately managed to ultimately strangle the dog to death during their scuffle.

The pictures are beyond sickening, as the flesh was torn off of her right to her bones. She is still getting her wounds cleaned under sedation in theatre every day at this point, and the doctors recon the chances of her retaining the function of at least her left arm is less than 30%, with the jury out as to whether the right will have to be amputated.

I am sure they are great dogs, but there is a reason why Russian Roulette is not an Olympic sport.

My friend's wife went to the hospital in an ambulance after intervening with their lovable dawgs . I've been around the so called "aggressive breeds", like Dobermans, GSDs, and Chows (a big NOPE too) my whole life. The Chows attacked the father after 6-7 years, when I was in college, and were immediately put down.

If a PB ever unleashed a viscious attack on me or my dog... then it's going to die... with extreme prejudice. If the owner wants to get even more stupid .... then so be it.

Ticking time bombs.... not all of them...but enough.

Way too many breeds that don't have the risks imo.

[aschen]

Take our dog to the dog park frequently. I mostly see tons of mutts, many with obviously some pitbull and many more that are likely part pitbull.

So a thought experiment, how much pitbull DNA is required to be a pitbull. And even more curious how much pitbull dna is required before the news reports pitbull attack (assault weapon!)?

[svandamme]

Originally Posted by KC911

My friend's wife went to the hospital in an ambulance after intervening with their lovable dawgs . I've been around the so called "aggressive breeds", like Dobermans, GSDs, and Chows (a big NOPE too) my whole life. The Chows attacked the father after 6-7 years, when I was in college, and were immediately put down.

If a PB ever unleashed a viscious attack on me or my dog... then it's going to die... with extreme prejudice. If the owner wants to get even more stupid .... then so be it.

Ticking time bombs.... not all of them...but enough.

Way too many breeds that don't have the risks imo.

Chows are a problem breed, I will never trust em.
They get loopy at older age.

[Willem Fick]

Originally Posted by masraum

On a less depressing note, it's good to see that you're still around, Willem. You've been around a long time. I hope you're doing well.

Thanks a stack Steve! Yeah, still kicking around.

Had a bloody awful four years lost to severe depression that didn't see me in the mood to do pretty much anything, but nice to be back here.

Equally nice to see you are still around too! I trust you are doing well?

[KFC911]

Welcome back Willem! Sorry to read about your battle .... keep on fighting and win... and you will!

[masraum]

Originally Posted by Willem Fick

Thanks a stack Steve! Yeah, still kicking around.

Had a bloody awful four years lost to severe depression that didn't see me in the mood to do pretty much anything, but nice to be back here.

Equally nice to see you are still around too! I trust you are doing well?

Glad to hear that you're feeling better and back.

[fintstone]

Just came across my newsfeed:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/woman-out-for-a-walk-attacked-and-killed-by-two-dogs-in-california/ar-AA12MWai?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=0f2c0003a1934b988f4d53e6342ea6ee