Gas stoves...maybe all done?

[Racerbvd]

[masraum]

Originally Posted by racerbvd

ROFLMAO!

That's darn funny no matter who you are.

[GH85Carrera]

That is pretty funny/

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by berettafan

Funny this comes up as i've been researching gas ranges. I do have to wonder what those silly hoods as shown by masraum actually accomplish.

They are mostly worthless .... I removed mine and put an over-the-range microwave there instead. The microwave has that same built in, totally worthless fan/venting too .... never used it.

[GH85Carrera]

Our gas cook top with 5 burners as a real vent straight up to outside, right up a small tube like the furnace has. It has a flapper in it that opens up when the fan is blowing. The tube has a chimney like cap to keep birds or squirrels and rain out.

Our oven is electric and on a separate wall with the microwave above the oven.

[stevej37]

NBC News had a segment on the 'gas stove controvery' this morning.
The reporter used an induction stove to boil a large pot of water to show how fast it happens.

He then moved the boiling water to the side and immediately placed his bare palm on the spot where the pot was.(without burning his skin)

[masraum]

Originally Posted by stevej37

NBC News had a segment on the 'gas stove controvery' this morning.
The reporter used an induction stove to boil a large pot of water to show how fast it happens.

He then moved the boiling water to the side and immediately placed his bare palm on the spot where the pot was.(without burning his skin)

Yep, I've done exactly that. Now if you'd boiled that water for a hour for some reason, you probably wouldn't want to put your hand there right away, because you heated the pot and water for an hour, and then the pot and water heated the glass underneath it for an hour. But I'll bet that within 60-120 seconds, it would have cooled enough for you to be able to touch it.

[stevej37]

^^^ I had no idea that could be done.
I just haven't paid any attention to induction stoves....cool stuff.

[cstreit]

"Cooking with gas stoves creates nitrogen dioxide"

"During 2019 alone, almost two million cases worldwide of new childhood asthma were estimated to be due to nitrogen dioxide pollution.”

"linked to childhood asthma"

I hate this sort of "chained conclusion" without proof nonsense. Where does most of this gas come from? Cars, busses, trucks, boilers, and powerplants. NOT your stove.

[look 171]

Originally Posted by masraum

I believe that's code. And around here, I believe code requires that all of the various detectors are hard wired (not battery powered) which is great for new builds...

but really fook up for owners of older buildings.

[cstreit]

Originally Posted by look 171

but really fook up for owners of older buildings.

They "solved" that in Illinois by requiring them have 10 year batteries that, of course, are not replaceable.

[look 171]

Don't worry, our here, gas appliances will be outlaw soon. I am in the process of building house (rental) in the city of Torrance. All the new reg has made my head spin. According to the plumbing inspector, my 30 gal water heater isn't allowed and a tankless is a must. Not only that, I must buy one that is designed to be installed near windows due to the limited wall space we have. Its just more money. Dumb of me to put in large window.

I decided to install 220v to the stove, and the water heater as back up along with gas. I piped in gas. After final inspection, the 30 gal heater goes right back in its originally planned space. Tankless is nothing but trouble and maintenance issues for a rental. Oh yeah, no more harmful earth shattering fuel released into the atmosphere but eclectic is so clean that its must be fine.

[A930Rocket]

I’ve had asthma all my life. The gas cooktop issue must be retroactive, because I didn’t have one until about 15 years ago.

[island911]

Ha! ^

Originally Posted by stevej37

NBC News had a segment on the 'gas stove controvery' this morning.
The reporter used an induction stove to boil a large pot of water to show how fast it happens.

He then moved the boiling water to the side and immediately placed his bare palm on the spot where the pot was.(without burning his skin)

That boiling water sounds dangerous.

What if someone stuck their hand on that!?

That's it - Ban anything that can boil water. - It's just too dangerous.

And fire obviously needs to be entirely banned in all its forms.

BTW, I lost all of my gas appliances in a freak boating accident.

Hello Easy-Bake Oven!

Wait, this won't work with LEDs

[look 171]

Originally Posted by cstreit

They "solved" that in Illinois by requiring them have 10 year batteries that, of course, are not replaceable.

I am OK with that. 60 bucks for ten years, cheap.

A housing inspector demanded that I hard wire the smoke and O2 sensor where as building and safety do not for older buildings. He didn't give a damn about the building and safety people. He wouldn't let me off in my rentals. That means, permit, dedicated line to sensor and daisy chain all of them together within each units. You see the cost there just to satisfy those law making azzholds.

[red 928]

Originally Posted by stevej37

^^^ I had no idea that could be done.
I just haven't paid any attention to induction stoves....cool stuff.

Did they mention that induction stove uses as much (240-volt) electricity as a 3-ton air conditioner?
While a gas stove would use a fraction of a penny's worth of gas to heat the same pot.
A small fraction.

Induction stoves are expensive to buy,
install (if you need to run 240v wiring)
and expensive to use.

[A930Rocket]

[group911@aol.co]

I'm sure these guys are just a bunch of know nothings but .... https://www.energystar.gov/about/2021_residential_induction_cooking_tops "The per unit efficiency of induction Cooking Tops is about 5-10% more efficient than conventional electric resistance units and about 3 times more efficient than gas. "

Originally Posted by red 928

Did they mention that induction stove uses as much (240-volt) electricity as a 3-ton air conditioner?
While a gas stove would use a fraction of a penny's worth of gas to heat the same pot.
A small fraction.

Induction stoves are expensive to buy,
install (if you need to run 240v wiring)
and expensive to use.

[look 171]

Originally Posted by group911@aol.co

I'm sure these guys are just a bunch of know nothings but .... https://www.energystar.gov/about/2021_residential_induction_cooking_tops "The per unit efficiency of induction Cooking Tops is about 5-10% more efficient than conventional electric resistance units and about 3 times more efficient than gas. "

They are talking efficiency for cooking not efficient for running it. Big difference. I think that is what Red was talking about.

I like a induction stove. They are cool but only work with a certain type of pots and pans. I would buy one for myself

[Danimal16]

Originally Posted by a930rocket

lol