Getting back into cycling - Page 6

otto_kretschmer · 03-22-2023, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by LEAKYSEALS951

You go man!!!

That said, I reshot one of my bikes several years ago (and a garden tractor). I WISH I had of used a better brand and hardener, or paid somebody to bake it. Looked great at first, but the soft paint chipped, scratched, and flaked even if I put my leg over the bike. It did not hold up to real world life.

I have half a mind to redo the whole thing.

meh.. if that becomes a problem I probably would just get it powder coated.

I have time to tinker. I'm probably going to end up eventually with a carbon bike but this is fun.

I've always liked Phil Wood hubs but the Campy hubs are adequate.

LEAKYSEALS951 · 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by otto_kretschmer

meh.. if that becomes a problem I probably would just get it powder coated.

I have time to tinker. I'm probably going to end up eventually with a carbon bike but this is fun.

I've always liked Phil Wood hubs but the Campy hubs are adequate.

I get it.

Do you have a set of cranks? I'm assuming you'd go 180 at least.
(and I think campy hubs would be perfect)

otto_kretschmer · 03-22-2023, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by LEAKYSEALS951

I get it.

Do you have a set of cranks? I'm assuming you'd go 180 at least.
(and I think campy hubs would be perfect)

I'll start shopping for cranks soon. This is a budget build so I'll probably stick with Shimano 105 at 175mm. The vintage Campy Super Record look nice but are twice the price.

LEAKYSEALS951 · 04:37 PM

Too bad you aren't short. I've got a campy 165 and 172.5 roadsets.
I've got a 1985 vintage 180 shimano deore mtb crankset, but I think a 110 bcd, so not really a road setup unless you got new rings based on 110. They get expensive in road gearings, and won't shift like newer ultegra.

What's your seat post diameter? I might have some shimano 600 and campy post sitting around in various drawers.

sc_rufctr · 03-22-2023, 05:21 PM

Watch out for chickens!

otto_kretschmer · 03-22-2023, 05:25 PM

I'm looking at a set of Weinman rims on ebay, never used, still in a bag with the decals

27 x 1.25 19mm wide

I don't see a steel insert where the spoke seats so I'm wondering if these are more of a heavy touring rim

otto_kretschmer · 03-22-2023, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr

Watch out for chickens!

thats a problem with group rides, either on bikes or motorcycles

When I was in the Navy around 89 we had a masterchief who was a exercise nut; running at lunch and riding on the weekends. A "tri guy". He was a genuine good guy and had enough clout to pull this off. He got the command to authorize a ship crew ride for Navy Relief from Half Moon Bay back to the ship at Sub Base Point Loma San Diego.

We were in a group one day and I was in the middle somewhere when my front tube bursts with a loud POP. The guy right in front of me hears the tire blow and gets on the brakes without looking. I can barely keep the bike up with a flat front tire and I can't slow down very well and this guy throws on the brakes. I scream "DON'T STOP".

Which they did. They all kept going and left me behind to fix my flat by myself. At least I didn't crash, wtf... you need to be in the Navy to understand these guys.

herr_oberst · 03-22-2023, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by otto_kretschmer

They all kept going and left me behind to fix my flat by myself.

Usually everybody stands around and watches, making pithy observations and critiquing my flat fixing style points. (But, I don't remember ever being left alone! That's cold!)

look 171 · 03-22-2023, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by herr_oberst

Usually everybody stands around and watches, making pithy observations and critiquing my flat fixing style points. (But, I don't remember ever being left alone! That's cold!)

Don't come on our ride. Get dropped, go back by yourself.

Ride more so you can keep up next time. Flats? Fix it on the side and better luck next time. Been there and done that on both sides.

look 171 · 03-22-2023, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by otto_kretschmer

there are only mounts for one water bottle so I think its a race frame and not a touring frame

I think touring bikes of the time had cantilever brakes and there are no mounts for them. I suspect going down hill with a full load of gear would require really good brakes.

I'm looking for a serial number. If I can meet up with the builder maybe he will remember something about it.

See the holes on top of the rear drop outs? Those are the eyelids for the racks that hold up the panniers. Road racing frames do not have that, unnecessary, save weight.

look 171 · 03-22-2023, 06:52 PM

Take a string and pull it from one side of the dropout to the head tube. Measure the distance from the string to the seat tube on both side. If that dimension is the same, then the rear triangle should be straight or at least close enough that can be cold set back straight. Drop out always get out of wack so a special tool is needed to realign them. It can be make with a big nut and some threaded rod to pull then back. The hanger is almost always bent. That must be pull with a straight wheel in place and a special tool.

look 171 · 03-22-2023, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by otto_kretschmer

thats a problem with group rides, either on bikes or motorcycles

When I was in the Navy around 89 we had a masterchief who was a exercise nut; running at lunch and riding on the weekends. A "tri guy". He was a genuine good guy and had enough clout to pull this off. He got the command to authorize a ship crew ride for Navy Relief from Half Moon Bay back to the ship at Sub Base Point Loma San Diego.

We were in a group one day and I was in the middle somewhere when my front tube bursts with a loud POP. The guy right in front of me hears the tire blow and gets on the brakes without looking. I can barely keep the bike up with a flat front tire and I can't slow down very well and this guy throws on the brakes. I scream "DON'T STOP".

Which they did. They all kept going and left me behind to fix my flat by myself. At least I didn't crash, wtf... you need to be in the Navy to understand these guys.

Guys that are brake happy or don't know how to ride in a pack will always be told to stay home or ride by themselves. They cause a crash then someone's hard working season is ruined.

look 171 · 03-22-2023, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr

Watch out for chickens!

I saw that yesterday. Crazy. That poor chicken.

herr_oberst · 03-22-2023, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by look 171

Don't come on our ride. Get dropped, go back by yourself.

Ride more so you can keep up next time. Flats? Fix it on the side and better luck next time. Been there and done that on both sides.

Diabolical! I need to harden the eff up!

aigel · aigel's Garage

Definitely glad I subscribed. YES I DID READ ABOUT THE HUBS! LOL!!!

look 171 · 03-22-2023, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by herr_oberst

Diabolical! I need to harden the eff up!

That's right Bud. I always knew you had it in you.

sc_rufctr · 03-22-2023, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by look 171

I saw that yesterday. Crazy. That poor chicken.

I've ridden with Chris (Miller) & his band of cohorts (they laughed at my vintage steel frame bike.).

Meanwhile I'm currently sourcing this for a new build.

otto_kretschmer · 03-22-2023, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by look 171

See the holes on top of the rear drop outs? Those are the eyelids for the racks that hold up the panniers. Road racing frames do not have that, unnecessary, save weight.

My Cannondale has the same holes. It was an entry level road bike back when I bought it but I don't think the frame was any different from their top bike at the time.

Andy Gilmour is a local, Tucson, legend/guru/greybeard type so if I ride the tour in November on one of this bikes I'm sure people will notice.

OTOH, my sister's race bike from the same era does not have the holes.

look 171 · 03-22-2023, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr

I've ridden with Chris (Miller) & his band of cohorts (they laughed at my vintage steel frame bike.).

Meanwhile I'm currently sourcing this for a new build.

A single ring up front. You are just too cool. For a road bike or gravel? Don't tell me track.

look 171 · 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by otto_kretschmer

My Cannondale has the same holes. It was an entry level road bike back when I bought it but I don't think the frame was any different from their top bike at the time.

Andy Gilmour is a local, Tucson, legend/guru/greybeard type so if I ride the tour in November on one of this bikes I'm sure people will notice.

OTOH, my sister's race bike from the same era does not have the holes.

If your Cannondale a R900? The CADD alum frames from those years were wicked stiff. The earlier ones has a funky rear drop out pushing the frame shorter by about 1 cm making them super quick. I am not sure about the R series bikes, but my CADD3s had a slightly higher BB for pedaling around corners in the US style around the block crits. My first one was destroyed from a crash. Bought another for 380 bucks from the club. They were cheap throw away bikes for racing unlike a Ti or carbon frame that were in the 1-2000 range which was really popular then.

If I remember correctly, depending on the year, many of them came with a Slice fork which was mfg. by Time.