Getting back into cycling

[look 171]

Originally Posted by upsscott

I felt like I was losing the forgiving benefits of steel when I had a carbon fork on a steel frame. Now I must say that this was on a single speed Surly Mtn bike that I had. It just felt weird like I was taking all the vibes in my hands.

A mtb's fork rake maybe different then a typical road bike. I can only assume you installed a road fork on it making twitchy and super responsive to steering impute. Riding a MTB on the road feels really muted and mushy to me. Maybe you miss that feeling with the carbon fork.

[cantdrv55]

This thread is making me want to ride bikes again. Thanks for starting this discussion. The last time I put any miles on my sit bones was 16 years and 25 pounds ago.

I bought a steel 80's Ciocc, all Campy, a while back but never rode it. To me, it's a beautiful work of art so it's been hanging in the garage. Some day I'll sell it. My go-to bike was an aluminum/carbon Novarra from REI. It cost me a pretty penny back in the day but it's probably worth nothing now, except to me. Before I ride it again, I'll have to change tires and tubes plus do a complete tune up. I might join the local bike club again for some motivation.

[sc_rufctr]

Carbon forks on steel road frames have been with us for a long time. I first installed on in the later 80s.

I still have this NOS Kinesis waiting for the "right" frame (Probably a De Rosa ).

[otto_kretschmer]

Originally Posted by cantdrv55

This thread is making me want to ride bikes again. Thanks for starting this discussion. The last time I put any miles on my sit bones was 16 years and 25 pounds ago.

I bought a steel 80's Ciocc, all Campy, a while back but never rode it. To me, it's a beautiful work of art so it's been hanging in the garage. Some day I'll sell it. My go-to bike was an aluminum/carbon Novarra from REI. It cost me a pretty penny back in the day but it's probably worth nothing now, except to me. Before I ride it again, I'll have to change tires and tubes plus do a complete tune up. I might join the local bike club again for some motivation.

[fanaudical]

Not sure if this is helpful to you, but here are a few 1" carbon forks at Universal Cycles - spendy and don't take wide tires (28mm max on the Soma)

https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=84135&category=633

https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=111899&category=633

https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=81820&category=633

[otto_kretschmer]

Originally Posted by fanaudical

Not sure if this is helpful to you, but here are a few 1" carbon forks at Universal Cycles - spendy and don't take wide tires (28mm max on the Soma)

https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=84135&category=633

https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=111899&category=633

https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=81820&category=633

I was scratching my head about the lengths of those but I think I understand now. They are all threadless so the steering tube is longer. The head/steering tube on the cannondale is 170 mm and its threaded. I don't know if a bike with a threaded fork can be converted to threadless.

This is more new stuff I need to learn.

[look 171]

Originally Posted by fanaudical

Not sure if this is helpful to you, but here are a few 1" carbon forks at Universal Cycles - spendy and don't take wide tires (28mm max on the Soma)

https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=84135&category=633

https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=111899&category=633

https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=81820&category=633

Wow, I haven't look for a 1" form for some time. I am glas they are still available in full carbon. Light too and Columbus normally makes good products. Thanks for the find. If I had a steel frame, that will be on my bike for sure.

[look 171]

If you guys want steel frame with modern parts, Peter is the go to guy. He's worked on smany very, very nice steel bikes. I drool over them when he post those pics.

[look 171]

Originally Posted by cantdrv55

This thread is making me want to ride bikes again. Thanks for starting this discussion. The last time I put any miles on my sit bones was 16 years and 25 pounds ago.

I bought a steel 80's Ciocc, all Campy, a while back but never rode it. To me, it's a beautiful work of art so it's been hanging in the garage. Some day I'll sell it. My go-to bike was an aluminum/carbon Novarra from REI. It cost me a pretty penny back in the day but it's probably worth nothing now, except to me. Before I ride it again, I'll have to change tires and tubes plus do a complete tune up. I might join the local bike club again for some motivation.

Just get out and ride couple time week to get the creaky bones going. You aint that old, man. Instead of a club, just fine a local group and joint in. I am sure there are rides all over the place on Saturday mornings. Some of the local bike shops will have rides going out of the shop. Ciocc are nice bikes. Show us a pic

[911Ghia]

Back a few years ago there was this woman who had a website about building bicycle frames. Little Fish she called it. She covered it in great detail and skill. Quite impressive person.



Suzy's Blog: 2011

Rich

[otto_kretschmer]

the frame came today and its in my hot little hand

looks straight



a lot of scrapes, aka "patina", I could leave it alone and not paint it but I got the paint already

[look 171]

That's one large frame. You know how to perform a simple check if frame is straight?

I wonder if that's has a road racing frame geometry due to having eyelids on the rear dropouts? They are usually found in touring frames

[otto_kretschmer]

Originally Posted by look 171

That's one large frame. You know how to perform a simple check if frame is straight?

I wonder if that's has a road racing frame geometry due to having eyelids on the rear dropouts? They are usually found in touring frames

there are only mounts for one water bottle so I think its a race frame and not a touring frame

I think touring bikes of the time had cantilever brakes and there are no mounts for them. I suspect going down hill with a full load of gear would require really good brakes.

I'm looking for a serial number. If I can meet up with the builder maybe he will remember something about it.

[aigel]

Haha, this cracks me up. Guy wants to 'get back into cycling' and starts with a bare old steel frame, no fork. This is NOT how you get back into cycling. This is how you get back into building something.

Its all good, you'll get done eventually and you'll enjoy it even better then!

Keep us posted on the project. Yes, absolutely needs paint. I hope you have an airbrush and are aiming at a Colnago level job!

[otto_kretschmer]

Originally Posted by aigel

Haha, this cracks me up. Guy wants to 'get back into cycling' and starts with a bare old steel frame, no fork. This is NOT how you get back into cycling. This is how you get back into building something.

Its all good, you'll get done eventually and you'll enjoy it even better then!

Keep us posted on the project. Yes, absolutely needs paint. I hope you have an airbrush and are aiming at a Colnago level job!

not exactly



I do have a touch up and a hplv gun

The paint is $18/quart and what I don't use on the bike I can paint my mail box

[aigel]

You can't be serious! Tell us you have a sprayer at least!? You aren't going to brush paint it, are you?

[otto_kretschmer]

Originally Posted by aigel

You can't be serious! Tell us you have a sprayer at least!? You aren't going to brush paint it, are you?

You really should reread all my posts on this thread. I have Campagnolo hubs that are on 20" bmx wheels for a 10 year old kid. The hubs fit so I can use them if I want to go through the trouble of building the wheels.

The frame was designed for 27" wheels. I put on the 700c from my Cannondale and the brakes are too short.

[LEAKYSEALS951]

Originally Posted by otto_kretschmer

not exactly



I do have a touch up and a hplv gun

The paint is $18/quart and what I don't use on the bike I can paint my mail box

You go man!!!
That said, I reshot one of my bikes several years ago (and a garden tractor). I WISH I had of used a better brand and hardener, or paid somebody to bake it. Looked great at first, but the soft paint chipped, scratched, and flaked even if I put my leg over the bike. It did not hold up to real world life.

I have half a mind to redo the whole thing.

[otto_kretschmer]

I'm a retiree now so Rust-Oleum is too expensive so I'm using a generic Ace Hardware brand to save a quarter ;D

[LEAKYSEALS951]

Those stickers (downtube and headtube) look pretty cool. Just buff and go!!!!

(I know you won't- but I had to say it)