Bible quotes

[nostatic]

play nice kids...

[IROC]

Originally posted by skipdup
Mike- Come on buddy... Do you condemn all of Islam because of the actions of a few terrorists? How about the same standard for Christians.

- Skip

You're right. Unjustified on my part. What I really intended was that a relatively rational discussion on some finer points of atheism and religion went right into the trash when Alfie went off the deep end...

Mike

[kang]

Originally posted by David McLaughlin
I wanted to post again to remind people that not all Christians have the same views as one closed minded person here. Love thy neighbor refers to everyone, of every race, religion, nationality, etc. Please, please, please don't hold all Christian people in the same catagory as this guy.

I here what you are saying David, and you are absoultely correct. The problem is that it is human nature, to some degree, to generalize and to hold all Christians in the same gategory as this a$$ho1e. As much as we intellectually try to overcome it, it is always there to some degree. Someone above posted the same thing regarding Muslims. All Muslims are certainly not in the same category as fundamental Muslim terrorists, but what do you think when you see one, with his full beard and robe? I see one of these guys and my gut reaction is "terrorist." I have to use my intellect to force this gut reaction to the side and tell myself that I have nothing against this guy. Not everyone (see "Alfred") can do this. Right now, my gut reaction is to put all Christians in the same category as Alfred. I'm trying to intellectulize this reaction away. But again, not everyone will be able to do that.

As for Alfred, let me play psychologist for a bit. I emphasize the word "play." Here is a guy with self-esteem that's down in the gutter. He has a crutch, that he calls his faith, to help boost his self worth. He uses his faith to prove he is superior to the rest of the world. Sheesh, look at those quotes regarding the word "white." Is there anyone that really thinks these quotes prove that white skinned people are superior? No one in their right mind would, but Alfred is clearly not in his right mind.

I would venture further and say that Alfred's religion is an addiction. Pretty much anything can be an addiction these days. Religious addiction is certainly not unheard of. Alfred has gotten obsessive complusive over his religion and his superiority over the rest of the world. Take away this feeling of superiority, this addiction, and Alfred would crumble to bits in an instant.

Alfred, tell us about your childhood. Most people with these issues can trace their origin back to their childhoods.

Alfred, buddy, you need help and you need it big time. You are not only all that is wrong with religion, you are all that is wrong with society, all that is wrong with humanity. It's people like you that are the cause of the majority of the worlds woes. You are the definition of the word "evil." I hope you can find a real solution, and not a crutch or addiction, to the deamons that are fighting inside you.

[Fishcop]

I think Alfie has also helped us on the whole Evolution versus Creation thing as well; we've evolved just a little bit further than monkeys and managed to create bigots.

Do you reckon if I quote a few passages from "Star Wars" or rattle off a couple of sage Yoda quotes, I could make you guys believe in the Force

Well L. Ron Hubbard got to have his own church.... why not Lucas?

[350HP930]

Originally posted by kang
Alfred has gotten obsessive complusive over his religion and his superiority over the rest of the world.

I prefer to be obsessive compulsive about my 930 and its superiority over most other porsches and automobiles.

[john walker's workshop]

human. excepting yourself obviously.

[stuartj]

What we have here is a bona fida, cross burning, hood wearing white supremicist fascist, a true apology for a human being.

Alfred, you make me wish your God does exist. At the same time you affirm to me that he does not.

Even the Christians -especially the Christians- are appalled to by you, and rightly so.

[Milu]

Interesting post Alfred.
It tells us a lot about you and your attention seeking. As it doesn't even seem to have the merit of being your belief, only you stirring the pot, does anybody think it's worth a reply?

[BlueSkyJaunte]

We have mods here, don't we?

Hello????

[stuartj]

Originally posted by BlueSkyJaunte
We have mods here, don't we?

Hello????

I for one dont want to see Albert moderated. I dont agree with a thing he says, but I would defend..... etc etc. Or as my old Uncle used to say, better out than in.

Its useful, even in the anomininity of the internet, that we are reminded that there are Alfreds are out there, they drive Porches, are allowed to breed and are entitled to vote.

[Fishcop]

The last laugh will be on you Alfie! You see provided bigots like yourself don't destroy humanity, eventually all the races will mix enough that a common brownish and dark eyed human will emerge. I suspect he and she will be beautiful to look at with the features of all the "races" combined, and hopefully the whole "race" thing will be a thing of the past.

I love cream in my coffee, and plenty of butter on my potatoes

Oh yeah, the Arab nation pretty much gave us numeracy which is so essential to "white" science and invention...

[nostatic]

you shouldn't use so many funhouse mirrors...

[M.D. Holloway]

shall we smite him?

[M.D. Holloway]

Alfred - criteria? WTF? Are you judging cattle now? Its one thing to rank a girls pooper, but talking that trash? Are you like this Star Trek alien that feeds on negitive emotion?

OK - consider yourself smooted, or smited or smitted or just basically laughed at (like in the Star Trek episode).

[nostatic]

[gavinlit]

I'd add to John's mention of arabic 'numeracy' the central concept of 0 as a placeholder (not just a quantity). Oh and there is algebra (roughly translated as 'the science of restoration and balancing), which is a bastardized english version of an arabic word that dosn't come to mind. Oh, and there is the matter of some of the most significant mathematical texts only coming to the surface during the enlightenment due to their being translated and safely kept in the middle east while librarys in Europe and Egypt were being burnt (Including the only surviving 6 of 13 volumes of 'Arithmetica'). The estimate of the lost seven volumes of Arithmetica (by Diophantus) runs to a couple of centuries of mathematical knowledge by most scholars. The masterstroke of destruction was delivered by the Christian emperor Theodosius who ordered the destruction of all pagan icons and altars. So this one christian essentially cost mankind a couple of hundred years of mathematics. Pretty good for a white European christian fella huh?

[gavinlit]

Oop, forgot about the table of 'sines' from the hindu world, to which there were competing computations of 'sines, cosines and tangents' from the arabic world. But I suppose that's not terribly important - just trigonometry after all. Not very useful really.

[kang]

Alfred, your soul is so full of hate I can see flames leaping from your posts. Re Star Wars, this hatred has totally taken you to the dark side. Not only have other Christians not come to your defense, they are distancing themselves from you: "Don't use this guy to judge us!" Alfred, you are less Christian than the atheists on this board.

You have created your own personal hell, burning in hatred, in your own soul. In case you haven't noticed, racism is considered a bad thing.

I am not going to argue with you point by point, as your reality is so different from mine that and your logic is so twisted and convoluted it hardly makes sense to me.

[nostatic]

Actually if you look at the percentages at top graduate schools in science right now, most grad students and postdocs are of asian descent. It is only a matter of time before the euro-centric "history" becomes ancient history.

What have you done for me lately?

So Alfred, since you want to hold out Nobel prizes and science as a criteria for superiority, do you hold an advanced degree in any of the relevant fields?

[john walker's workshop]

naziism for sure.