Does anyone want a free gererator?

[nostatic]

The gererator feeds off negative vibes. This is why I was trying to get the PPOT to all play nice. I had intelligence briefs about this dangerous device but was sworn to secrecy to prevent a global panic. But now the cat is out of the magnetic bag so to speak. I know of its horrible capabilities. If we all come together and sing Kum Ba Ya we can defeat it!

[Icemaster]

...yech....I'm not holding your hand while you sing Todd...

[tobster1911]

Yeah I am so glad you guys resurrected the dead. (proof of God?) I don't know how I missed this before.

Originally posted by reino757
OK class, now that I have your attention!

Here's your extra credit question.....ready ok

1. Do magnets have any stored energy ?

2. Once an object is moving, does it have any stored energy?

Bonus Round.

Can you combine more than one source of energy together and then have a greater amount?

Answer 1. No. A magnet is simply a material where the atomic charge is polarized. i.e. all the positive "facing" one end, negative "facing" the other. I think you are referring to magnetic FIELD.

Answer 2. Yep, kinetic. Now how do you suppose it got there and how do you propose to retrieve it.

Bonus Round: Ah ha, your reasoning (poor as it is) becomes clear. You simply make the rotating device out of a magnet. Now you have twice the stored energy (200%). You use 100% to keep your magnet rotating and you have 100% left for use. Yet you only say 80% more power. You trying to rip me off?

[sammyg2]

If you put slick 50, a tornado, a cool collar, and split-fire spark plugs on the gererator you will get back that other 20% for a net of 100% free.

[red-beard]

Yep, I'm glad I dredged this out of the sess-pool.

[artplumber]

Why does he/she/it keep answering? Some kind of freudian death wish or self imolation thing? Was that someone else? I never was much good at pysch.

OTOH, I wasn't too bad at physics. This guy needs to take some physics classes then "educate" me. Then explain the financials - that should be good.

[tobster1911]

I was hoping that they would take my bait and attempt to get technical on me. Oh well.

Now I on the other hand offer FREE to all pelicans the directions to make a true FREE energy generator design. I do require $5.00 for shipping of the design packet. For only a few hundred dollars worth of parts you can FREE yourself from the evil utility corporations. I will only release the documents when the interest reaches 1 million.

It uses suspended mass energy transfer and my extensive work in the inductively coupled magnetic field field.

P.S. awww screw it. Here is the design. Take that pendulum thing with the 5 balls on strings. The one where when you lift and drop one ball all the energy is transfered to the other end and it keeps going back and forth. Now these balls need to be made out of magnets you see. Next get some good quality 30-gauge wire and wrap around the entire do-hicky. As the magnets pass through the wire they will create an electrical current. Having a second coil with different number of winding will transform the voltage differential produced into a usable power supply.

I have done all the math. It works see. Maxwell's equations rule!

[sammyg2]

http://amasci.com/freenrg/fnrg.html
quoted from the above website:

WARNING WARNING WARNING!
DO NOT GIVE MONEY TO PEOPLE INVOLVED IN "FREE ENERGY"!!!!
Several legit researchers do exist, but they don't spend huge amounts on advertising like the scammers do. The people who pursue wide publicity are almost all scam artists. If someone is selling plans for "real" free-energy devices, they are a ripoff. Don't waste your money. Or if someone is selling "Dealer ships" or invest ment oppor tunities for a free energy corp, hold tight to your wallet and RUN! Or, if you've already let them get their hands on your money, ask to see proof of the FE device, and see what excuse you're given. (It will be a very convincing excuse. Scam artists don't act sneaky. Scam artists survive because they seem far MORE honest and honorable than a normal person. Remember that the "con" in "con game" means "confidence." They win your confidence first, then they go after your money.) How to tell the difference between a con game and a real product? Easy: if you give them money before receiving a working FE device, , then it's a scam, always.

[goat]

Good one.
A link from sammy's page.
http://www.phact.org/e/con_man.htm

Title page is "Get rich pitching crackpot technology"
Good stuff if you deciede to go that route.

[Hendog]

I like the way Pelicans can string this guy along: we're getting free laughs out of him. I'd say he's generating somethin' from nothin'

[jeffgrant]

Originally posted by reino757
Sit in the back of a c130 doing "zero gravity" manuevers.
Time window, yes, but it was still done. there are exeptions to many rules.

Out!

Hahahahahaha! Hahahahahaha! Hahahahahaha! Hahahahahaha! Hahahahahaha! Hahahahahaha! Hahahahahaha! Hahahahahaha!

You're a MORON. You're not "defying gravity", you're just not moving in relation to the aircraft... you're both falling at the same rate.

Hell, I guess I was KICKING GRAVITY'S ASS then when I was going into negative G's while stuffing the nose in my 150! Cool!

So THIS is what a grade 6 edumacation gets you these days...


EDIT: Note to self... read dates and page counts before posting replies to ancient crack-pot theories.

[reino757]

To Peter and the rest of the "doomsday, sky is falling, naysayers".....OK ready class, and I am not going to keep repeating this for the slow learners!
1. Once a magnet is produced (not for free but with energy expelled in the process...are ya gettin this) THEN. it has inherent energy...does it not take some amount to hold up ..let's say a 2lb. piece of metal with a magnet? If you answered yes, bravo, we can now proceed tp principal #2
2. Rotational kinetic energy....Hmmmnnn don't remember that one??? Well, again for you you slow learners, let me draw you a picture..... ONCE, for example, you spin a cars tire up to speed (note...energy used at this time ! ) THEN, it has inherent "rotational kinetic energy" stored for a limited amount of time.
Now class...it appears that some of you here "claim" to be of high intellect so I am SURE that you do comprehend thus far...am I right??
BACK TO THE GERERATOR! There is a generator designed that combines these two types of energy, and "in conjunction" , AFTER,energy has been spent initially, can produce electrical current via a rotating prop like magnet blades sandwiched between copper coils and well ....yes It actually produces electricity just like the generator in some of your garages!
Furthermore. since the deregulation of the Utility Companies years ago, THE UTILITY COMPANIESs now purchase KW's from the power grid via numerous sources!, this is but yet another source that supplies the grid (via your homes power feed) and THAT's where the inventor gets his revenue, from the utilitty company. Capiche??

I can't believe I revisited this string of post I had given up on you but I know that there are still some in the class that might understand Physics 101, yes ....101 I hope this helps those multi-degreed persons with the big egos.

I truely expect more comments from the peanut gallery.

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[svandamme]

Originally posted by reino757
1. once a magnet is produced (not for free but with energy expelled in the process...are ya gettin this) THEN. it has inherent energy...does it not take some amount to hold up ..let's say a 2lb. piece of metal with a magnet? if you answered yes , bravo, we can now proceed tp principal #2

yeah , you're right, a magnetic field does contains energy

but you're wrong in interpreting how that can be used cause a magnetic bipole, placed in a magnetic field,will align itself in the opposed polarity, and as such the net fields strenght will cancel out as much as possible, lowering the energy field , to a minimum

or something like that, talk to somebody with a degree , i'm sure they can give you a better explanation
either way , you oughtto read up on magnets and magnetism
if you do , you'll learn that you need electromagnets if you want to move things that will be running under a load...
you'll have to put energy in , and keep putting energy in , and you'll get nothing out of it in terms of energy gains.. nada, zip , zero

Originally posted by reino757

2. Rotational kinetic energy....Hmmmnnn don't remember that one??? well again for you you slow learners let me draw you a picture..... ONCE, for example, you spin a cars tire up to speed (note...energy used at this time ! ) THEN it has inherent "rotational kinetic energy" stored for a limited amount of time.

might wanna rephrase that to "extremely limited time"

Originally posted by reino757


Now class...it appears that some of you here "claim" to be of high intellect so I am SURE that you comprehend thus far...am I right??

no you aint, you flunked it in #1 allready , and doign a good job flunking #2 so far

Originally posted by reino757

BACK TO THE GERERATOR! there is a generator designed that combines these two types of energy, and in conjunction , AFTER energy has been spent initially! can produce electrical current via a rotating prop like magnet blades sandwiched between copper coils and well ....yes It actually produces electricity just like the generator in some of your garages!

but because you flunked #1, #2 no longer is valid, since you have a power drain that is larger then what you extract, meaning , that even if left alone, you have a power loss, and as such , the contraption will stop if you no longer feed it energy

so instead of getting free engergy , you will be dumping power on it , just to keep it from grinding to a halt

Originally posted by reino757

furthermore. Since the deregulation of the Utility Companies years ago, THE UTILITY COMPANIESs now purchase KW's from the power grid from numerous sources!, this is be but yet another source that supplies the grid (via your homes power feed) and THAT's where the inventor gets his revenue, from the utilitty company. Capiche??

capice yourself buddy , you are definately not firing on all cylinders, clean your plugs, change your spark wires, check your timing ,dwell and angle, do something and fix whatever is causing it...

Originally posted by reino757


I can't believe I revisited this string of post I had given up on you but I know that there are still some in the class that might understand Physics 101, yes ....101 I hope this helps those multi-degreed persons with the big egos.

I truely expect more comments from the peanut gallery.

thx again for the entertainment

[notfarnow]

For those who haven't read the whole thread, I will repost my artist's rendition of the Free Energy Generator:

[reino757]

SVANNDAMME,, you ingnorant slut

I does NOT matter if the magnetic energy is x^-2 or x^ -50....it STILL takes magnetic energy to act against gravity. (percent used is immaterial) PERIOD.

You fit the bill to a tee. come clean my pool

OUT..................

[svandamme]

a slut eh?

magnetisme does not act against gravity , not in the sense you say
whatever your contraption is supported on , that's what is holding it up
nothing acts against gravity , gravity is fully stressign the support

and the result is , a measurable weight
remember , weight is variable, mass is not
there is no weight, without gravity

unless your contraption , is levitating on it's own
and it can do so ,without feeding it energy , gravity is not acted upon

have you been hanging out with the tin foil hats at the fence near Area 51 or something? to long in the sun ?? or are you David Copperfield?? can you make things levitate??

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally posted by notfarnow
For those who haven't read the whole thread, I will repost my artist's rendition of the Free Energy Generator:

How does the water make it back uphill? Is there a hampster in there somewhere?

757, I have to admire your blissfully ignorant persistence, unfortunately you are in dire need of physics lessons. English grammar and spelling certainly wouldn't hurt either.

Viewing your signature, am I to assume that you own a large number of passenger airliners, worth millions of dollars? Wow, anyone who puts all of that in their signature line on the internet must be telling the truth and incredibly wealthy, and therefore any investments proposed by said member must be worthwhile and extremely lucrative.

[lendaddy]

How can you not feel sorry this guy? We are all witness to the weakness of the human mind....sad really.

[Wrecked944]

Originally posted by reino757
I truely expect more comments from the peanut gallery.

Dude, no worries. This can all be settled with no muss and no fuss. Just build a working version of the free generator and prove everybody wrong. Why bother debating when you can demonstrate?

[tobster1911]

Originally posted by reino757
To Peter and the rest of the "doomsday, sky is falling, naysayers".....OK ready class, and I am not going to keep repeating this for the slow learners!
1. Once a magnet is produced (not for free but with energy expelled in the process...are ya gettin this) THEN. it has inherent energy...does it not take some amount to hold up ..let's say a 2lb. piece of metal with a magnet? If you answered yes, bravo, we can now proceed tp principal #2

Produce a magnet? Sure create an electromagnet (passing electric current through coil produces a magnetic field) and use this to align the charge in a ferrous material. Problem is that the strength of the resulting magnetic field will be MUCH less than that needed to accomplish this. Also if you load that magnetic field to try and "tap into" the energy you can easily destroy the magnetic field.

The energy to hold up a 2lb load with a magnet? What does that show? You are not accomplishing any work. You are simply not destroying the coupling of the two magnetic fields. To lift (move load vertically) that metal with a magnet reqires the same exact amount of YOUR energy as it would if you lifted it by hand!

Originally posted by reino757
2. Rotational kinetic energy....Hmmmnnn don't remember that one??? Well, again for you you slow learners, let me draw you a picture..... ONCE, for example, you spin a cars tire up to speed (note...energy used at this time ! ) THEN, it has inherent "rotational kinetic energy" stored for a limited amount of time.

Sure no one is debating that you can have "stored" energy in a rotating mass. If you remove ALL losses, then it would continue to rotate forever. This is not possible but lets pretend. The problem become one of accessing that stored energy. The moment you load the system it will slow down. Even in a frictionless environment. Even if the load is electrical.

Originally posted by reino757
Now class...it appears that some of you here "claim" to be of high intellect so I am SURE that you do comprehend thus far...am I right??
BACK TO THE GERERATOR! There is a generator designed that combines these two types of energy, and "in conjunction" , AFTER,energy has been spent initially, can produce electrical current via a rotating prop like magnet blades sandwiched between copper coils and well ....yes It actually produces electricity just like the generator in some of your garages!
Furthermore. since the deregulation of the Utility Companies years ago, THE UTILITY COMPANIESs now purchase KW's from the power grid via numerous sources!, this is but yet another source that supplies the grid (via your homes power feed) and THAT's where the inventor gets his revenue, from the utilitty company. Capiche??

I can't believe I revisited this string of post I had given up on you but I know that there are still some in the class that might understand Physics 101, yes ....101 I hope this helps those multi-degreed persons with the big egos.

I truely expect more comments from the peanut gallery.

Blah blah blah. You did not once address any of the losses in the system.

I work with RFID for a living. This involve transfering energy from one device to a completely passive (batteryless) device using magnetic field coupling (capacitive of inductive). This way all of the energy to power both devices is only on one side of the system. Also transformers use magnetic field coupling. For example, I can take a 5V supply and give you back 10V using magnetic fields in a transformer. The hell you say, that would be creating energy. Ah, but you are not looking at what has happened to the current being supplied by the 5V or the current draw available on the 10V side.

Until you can demonstrate even an awareness of Maxwell's Equations, Please for the love of God, stop pretending you are teaching a class.