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[svandamme]

CC, i never said buddhists taught force
i'm just yanking your chain on a technicality , the one where you blanket covered everybody by saying god wants this or that

which imposes the concept of a single "god" to everybody including those who do not believe in "god"

hence my question intended to point out that your generalisation speaks for those who don't agree to it in the first place

you did generalize, and if you can't admit that, even after 2 posts ago , you admited that it doesn't apply to atheists... and in your most recent post you even admitted that you used the term "Blanketly"
i mean, you contradict yourself in your own post...

[cool_chick]

I never implied or tried to claim that it pertains to Athiests. Athiesm is not a religion. For you to think I'm talking about someone who is not religious is something you made up in your head.

And I NEVER said "everyone." I said the religions of the religions I know of! Big difference.

I don't want to get into a pissing match and my whole point has been lost.... I desparately want my point to be seen, not twisting of what I'm trying to say, so I really want to try again........

My original point to livi:

To clarify the point I was originally trying to make, and still trying to make, and my final attempt to make....if there is a religion that someone knows of that is contrary to this, please refute...otherwise, anything else is just a pissing match....and an effort to alter what I'm trying to say.

There is no religion that I know of (and this includes most certainly major religions) that dictates forcing someone to do something or not do something against their will. Their HIGHER POWER does not condone this. Their HIGHER POWER teaches that this is a personal thing, and the person themself is to attain righteousness, not force anything on others.



I swear, if a Buddhist came up to me and inserted Buddha instead of God in the previous statements I made, I would completely understand and agree. For one, a BIG indicator is "no religion I know of" which means this person is not speaking only of Buddhism and is speaking of other's HIGHER POWER.

[IROC]

Originally posted by cool_chick
Their HIGHER POWER does not condone this. Their HIGHER POWER teaches that this is a personal thing, and the person themself is to attain righteousness, not force anything on others.

I've been watching this from the sidelines (and maybe should stay there), but had to comment.

How in the world can you presume to know what a particular religion's "higher power" teaches and condones!??!?! Only Pat Robertson really knows.

Mike

[Jim Richards]

Originally posted by IROC
Only Pat Robertson really knows.

+1

[Rodeo]

Not so sure about that ... what about this, er ...., "guy?"

[svandamme]

Originally posted by IROC
How in the world can you presume to know what a particular religion's "higher power" teaches and condones!??!?!

Mike

exactly.

[cool_chick]

Originally posted by IROC
I've been watching this from the sidelines (and maybe should stay there), but had to comment.

How in the world can you presume to know what a particular religion's "higher power" teaches and condones!??!?! Only Pat Robertson really knows.

Mike

Basically by reading about the religions I know of....mainly the major religions.

Pat Robertson's version of forcing people to do things against their will is not accurate.

[Superman]

The Christians seem to want to mandate that all pregnancies go full term. Remove the choice. Frankly, I think they need to review their scripture again.

[cool_chick]

Originally posted by Superman
The Christians seem to want to mandate that all pregnancies go full term. Remove the choice. Frankly, I think they need to review their scripture again.

The religion itself states that I...as a Christian......make the choice for myself. I, as a christian, choose to live righteously. NOT that I force YOU....

[IROC]

Originally posted by cool_chick
No. You guys still don't get it. The religion itself states that I...as a Christian......make the choice for myself. I, as a christian, choose to live righteously. NOT that I force YOU....

Actually it's been my experience that if you put 100 Christians in a room, you'll get about 105 different interpretations of what "the religion itself states". Pick one that you like and run with it but don't be surprised when you find opposing views.

Mike

[notfarnow]

Back on topic:



Phew! It's gettin hot in here!

I bet that picture even makes Snowman tingle at his extremities!

[scottmandue]

If you put one hundred human beings in a room you will get one hundred different points of view on many subjects... whats your point?

[cool_chick]

Originally posted by IROC
Actually it's been my experience that if you put 100 Christians in a room, you'll get about 105 different interpretations of what "the religion itself states". Pick one that you like and run with it but don't be surprised when you find opposing views.

Mike

I'm going by the writings, not "opinion.". These writings don't state to force others to do anything.

[cool_chick]

Originally posted by notfarnow
Back on topic:



Phew! It's gettin hot in here!

I bet that picture even makes Snowman tingle at his extremities!

How could it not....???

[svandamme]

Originally posted by cool_chick
I'm going by the official writings, not anyone's "opinion.". No where does it state to force others to do anything.

and those official writings were officially certified by , who?
the Mormons have a book too? is that one official?
didn't David Koresh have a book ? how official was that one?

[Rodeo]

Newman's not so hot ...

[scottmandue]

Originally posted by IROC
I've been watching this from the sidelines (and maybe should stay there), but had to comment.

How in the world can you presume to know what a particular religion's "higher power" teaches and condones!??!?! Only Pat Robertson really knows.

Mike

Most religions have scriptures that you are supposed to read and give directions or teaches what they condone.

All religious communities are made of of unique and fallible human beings who make mistakes, have various opinions, and disagreements like any other section of society.

Why is that so hard to understand?

[cool_chick]

Originally posted by svandamme and those official writings were officially certified by , who?
the Mormons have a book too? is that one official?

In the context of my statement, yes.

didn't David Koresh have a book ? how official was that one?

His book was the bible. The bible doesn't tell people to force things on others.



Do you not understand what I"m saying?

[IROC]

[i]Originally posted by scottmandue:

Most religions have scriptures that you are supposed to read and give directions or teaches what they condone.

And the bible is *so* clear in its scriptures that we have people - even in this thread - arguing fig leafs and other scripture. The bible is not written in a way that permits unambiguous interpretation. Not even close.

All religious communities are made of of unique and fallible human beings who make mistakes, have various opinions, and disagreements like any other section of society.

Why is that so hard to understand? [/B]

Exactly!! That is why I made that point that *one person* cannot presume to know what the particular god of a religion condones and teaches. You reinforced my point well. Thanks.

Mike

[svandamme]

Originally posted by cool_chick
In the context of my statement, yes.



His book was the bible. The bible doesn't tell people to force things on others.



Do you not understand what I"m saying?

who wrote the bible? how many versions of the bible are there?
who makes those versions "official"
who translated the bugger?
do you not understand what i'm saying?
does my butt look big in these pants?