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How Important is Vice Presidential Selection?
How Important is Vice Presidential Selection?
I know nothing about this group SurveyUSA, how many people they asked or the medium used. 58 days old.........................anything good in here? SurveyUSA http://www.surveyusa.com/index.php/2008/03/25/how-important-is-vice-presidential-selection/ SurveyUSA asked, for each of the 3 remaining candidates for President: Quote:
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More and very interesting surveys. http://www.surveyusa.com/
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![]() Edwards could not even pull in his own home state in the last election. I just don't get it.
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I'm against them all no matter who their running mates are.
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Wow...Obama and Hillary both have higher negatives than McCain.
McCAin needs to have Lieberman on the ticket...if he does than Obama will lose by the BIGGEST MARGIN EVER. Why just because I say so that's why...really he will pick up most of the Dems that voted for Hillary and 2/3 of the republicans...the Rep base who need em...they can stay home for all McCain will care. If Hillary is the Nominee than McCain will need to pick up the Rep base and will need to choose someone conservative. If Hillary is the nom it really doesn't matter who she picks..maybe a NegRO...to get the black vote back... Obama...will need Edwards...if he wants a chance.
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BTW I don't need NO STINKIN Survey USA to tell me this stuff. I was writng as it was posted...
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Cheney was the best life insurance policy Bush could've ever bought.
Similarly, Dan Quayl(e) was the best life insurance policy Bush I could've ever had. . . If Obama could pick She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named as a running mate, I can guarantee there isn't a person on this earth who would ever take a shot at him (except maybe her).
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If obama gets the nod, & hilderbeast forces the hand to be the VP, we can be sure that he won't last the 1st term, and the prize will be hers.
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Conventional wisdom is that VP selections do nothing to the ticket, with the apparent exception of George H. W. Bush in 1992 when Dan Quayle had a measurable drag on the ticket. I've heard the drag wasbetween one and two percent. I believe that, but think that underestimated the synergistic effect of Quayle looking inept had on Bush looking out of touch. I think Liberman had an impact on the Gore ticket, but I haven't seen polling to back me up. I suspect that neither's VP selection will end up having any measurable effect.
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My two picks are the same two I wanted as president. #1. choice: Mark Warner http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Warner Conservative white vote appeal. #2 choice: Bill Richardson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Richardson Hispanic vote in the bag.
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The Hildebeast won't take the VP nod unless she thinks Obama won't make it through his term.
Why you ask 1. She is 62, if Obama wins she will be 70 in 2016, when she can run again if she is VP. Sitting prezs get the nod..even a Carter the Inept 2. If Obama goes down she will be 66 in 2012 and can say, "See I told ya so in 08." Hillary has NO INCENTIVE to be VP, Obama won't even let her anywhere near the WH...she will be in Antarctic taking global warming temps for 4 years. Hillary has all the incentive to see Obama go down in flames...she might even help him with a few slips of the tongue.
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I don't think it will matter what Obama picks, the for and against are already set.
McCain needs a younger-is there a choice-person as VP, someone that can/will be groomed to run for POTUS in four years. For that purpose I would like to see Newt. If McCain lasts four years I think he will be happy to get out, alive. |
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I think it's pretty sad that the VP selection has way more to do with politics and electability than competence for the job. In that regard, I think Bush's selection of Cheney was pretty interesting. No one ever called Cheney inexperienced. And no one ever thought he had the least bit of interest in running for POTUS after Bush's terms. I doubt we'll ever again see a pick of someone with that resume AND lack of interest in the big job.
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McCain won't take Lieberman, I don't think the GOP would stand it. it would become close to causing a fracture. He needs another Left leaning Republican.
Obama needs someone who is a respected presence. Hillary is a millstone that would cost him the campaign. I would expect he would go for Richardson. Stupid to say it, but he needs a respected older white dude as his running mate. It will firm up his "Racist" issues. |
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I thought the conventional wisdom was that the VP was chosen to help get the votes in particular states, states needed to win the general election.
Say a candidate is slightly behind in Ohio, one of the few swing states. A VP who does well in Ohio would be chosen. This will give that candidate a greater chance of winning that particular swing state, thus helping with the overall electoral college vote.
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I like Richardson for Obama. He and McCain both need a heartland governor to ballance their Senate experience. I'm starting to think Bobby Jindal might get McCain's nod. I have heard him speak and he was fantastic. Possibly the equal of Obama.
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Bobby Jindal, is that the guy from Louisiana?
I still say VP choice will be bigger in this election than ever before, due to the weakness of the lead guy on either ticket
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Exactly, McCain NEEDS a respected VP that people feel will be able to take over at a moments notice. I don't think the guy from Louisana is it. Richardson, a guy from a state of one million people, the mayors of big cities, LA, New York, Dallas etc. have more international experience than that. but since it's for Obama, go for it. |
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Hiliary will not be a good VP, she will run for Co-President with Obama though
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Hillary as VP, Obama will be in third place behind Bill and Hill, with The Clintons as VP he will be an also ran. |
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