Angry White Man

[Joeaksa]

Originally Posted by Hugh R

So which politician represents YOU? The one who says wow, you as a working middle or slightly upper class who pay 90% of the taxes? What do you think? Last time I called Nancy Pelosi's office (two weeks ago), I told the reception person I wanted to speak to someone about the tax rebate thing, without a word, she transferred me to voice mail and no one has yet to call me back. Yes, I left my number.

No one in this election represents me, nor do they represent the majority of the public. Again this election this will be "Voting for the best of the worst" as to tell the truth I cannot stomach any of the three selections, but I really do not want two of the three to become President, and the 3rd is just about as repulsive.

[onewhippedpuppy]

F- all this other stuff, just call it the angry MAN. As un-PC as it is to be a man in this country, there's still many of us about. When I say man, it encompasses everything described in the original post. Some may say that's too ambiguous, but I disagree. A man works hard, takes responsibility, takes care of his family, does what it takes to succeed, and doesn't ask for handouts. Those who don't may have a dick, but they aren't men.

I'm sure there's many that scoff at stuff like this, but the backlash is building. More and more people are becoming frustrated with the government, but nobody is stepping up to fix it. It's setting the stage for a gamechanging candidate, someone with the balls to step up and say "I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it any more". To tell the special interest groups to f-off and get a real job. Those who contribute the most to our society are being increasingly pushed aside, but these are the people with the power to push back.

[Sapporo Guy]

I was thinking of the term "white" today while shoveling snow ... do you realize that even IF I fell butt naked in the powder you could still find me ... lolo ... like if you'd want to :P

So, sorry folks ... I guess I ain't be no white boy

Down with this color routine already!
Can't we just be American???

[Sapporo Guy]

"Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country!"

Now, how did that end?

[mattdavis11]

Originally Posted by Sapporo Guy

"Axe not what your country can do for you, but how you can do your country!"

Fixed it for you

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[Racerbvd]

Originally Posted by nostatic

sorry Sam, but you benefited from the mere fact of being white. Your race and gender made opportunities available to you that were not equally available to other races. I have no doubt you worked hard to get where you are, and earned what you have. That isn't what I'm talking about. It is about the ways that society has favored white males. You did not face the same challenges as a black man. Or a Chinese immigrant. Or a Hispanic.

I guess you are forgetting about the Irish, they were considered the lowest form of life when they came to the states. If it were not for White males, where would the rest be (other than China)??? Still living in mad huts, selling each other into slavery, oh, yea, they still are doing that 200 years later. Where would the black man be had it non been for slavery??? Yes, a disgusting, sad time ion history that turned out to be the best thing to ever happen to the black man. Look at what is still happening today in Africa?? Descendants from the ones who sold slaves 200 years ago are still kidnapping & selling slaves, and they ain't white!!
If you are a white male, and feel guilty, follow these simple instructions, then we will all feel better

[island911]

Originally Posted by dd74

The choices are already limited: 1) a black man; 2) a woman; ...

Obama, or Clinton? ...which is Black, and which is the woman?

Obviously both are making claims to both camps; Hil with her "coPresidency" with "the first black man in the house" and Obama with the Oprah sssuuPRIZZzzze.

Their respective reaches (pandering) to 'minority status' and self portraits as anything BUT a white male is indeed a sign of the times. Just how much longer can that race/woman-card be played, before everyone figures out that it's a division card. ?

[nostatic]

Originally Posted by island911

nostaic, you can take anything to an unreasonable extreme.

pot, meet kettle.

Originally Posted by island911

What else should Sammy be guilty for? ... having toe-nails? hair?

My barefoot and pregnant comment was for the happy couple of Wayne and Dr. Laura, not Sam. I'm not holding Sam "guilty" of anything. I'm merely pointing out that white males have occupied a privileged place in the US society. You can argue about where we go from here, but this "I worked for everything I have, I just want a level playing field, etc" essentially ignore the reality of the last 200+ years.

Some people either don't realize that fact, or want to conveniently say, "ok, clean slate now" and ignore it. I don't think it's going to be that simple.

And to say that the white males "built" this country is insulting to every other ethnicity that has come to this country. Including those bum Irish.

If this post had been about "angry middle class men" I would have had less of an issue with it. And it isn't about being PC.

[Hugh R]

Of course the white male built the place! Maybe on the backs of the chinese, hispanics and blacks, but nevertheless HE was the Project Manager. Give credit where credit is due!

[svandamme]

i don't understand why anybody keeps yapping bout Billary
i said it before, and i'll say it again

if she ends up as the Dem runner for presidency, the Dem's loose the election,

maybe i should rephrase it... if, then the dem's wil loose massively
i'm talking slam dunk for the Republicans

[island911]

Originally Posted by nostatic

.... I'm merely pointing out that white males have occupied a privileged place in the US society. ...... this "I worked for everything I have, I just want a level playing field, etc" essentially ignore the reality of the last 200+ years.

Some people either don't realize that fact, or want to conveniently say, "ok, clean slate now" and ignore it. I don't think it's going to be that simple.

And to say that the white males "built" this country is insulting to every other ethnicity that has come to this country. Including those bum Irish.

If this post had been about "angry middle class men" I would have had less of an issue with it. And it isn't about being PC.

I think that what you are missing, is that "white male" is referring to a culture.

...a culture that gives opportunity. ...a culture under attack by knee-jerk wusses.

[Mule]

Originally Posted by Racerbvd

I guess you are forgetting about the Irish, they were considered the lowest form of life when they came to the states. If it were not for White males, where would the rest be (other than China)??? Still living in mad huts, selling each other into slavery, oh, yea, they still are doing that 200 years later. Where would the black man be had it non been for slavery??? Yes, a disgusting, sad time ion history that turned out to be the best thing to ever happen to the black man. Look at what is still happening today in Africa?? Descendants from the ones who sold slaves 200 years ago are still kidnapping & selling slaves, and they ain't white!!
If you are a white male, and feel guilty, follow these simple instructions, then we will all feel better

Spot on Byron. In N.O. there was a thing called the West End Canal. It was built to connect the river & the lake during the time when the Irish were fleeing the potato famine. This thing was dug by hand & thousands died of yellow fever. Every now & then a construction project will uncover an unknown cemetery. Amazingly, no slaves died in the project. It was much cheaper to hire an starving Irishman for a nickel a week or whatever. If he died, throw him in a hole & get you a fresh one. Where was Al McSharpton?

[dd74]

Originally Posted by island911

I think that what you are missing, is that "white male" is referring to a culture.

...a culture that gives opportunity. ...a culture under attack by knee-jerk wusses.

Now you're talking! Let's talk about the implications of the disappearance of a culture. Enough apologies about misdeeds done in the past. I no longer expect my 28 acres and a mule, I don't believe others wait around for the same.

[911Rob]

Originally Posted by Sapporo Guy

"Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country!"

Now, how did that end?

I think it ended with a shot in the head when he turned against the mob that put him there?

[futuresoptions]

AWM = Limp D*ck.......... Sorry but true... Our grandfathers would be so proud of us.... How's that Cafe Latte' ? Hows the new Iphone working out.....

[island911]

Originally Posted by dd74

Now you're talking! Let's talk about the implications of the disappearance of a culture. ...

We have morphing of cultures in the US. At least that has been the predominate goal of AWM since the civil war. --obviously, there have been some hold-outs, but they are the losers AND they are the same group that another group of losers point to in an effort to sell their Blame-Game.

But w/in that always changing culture a few guiding principles must remain strong. --caving to divisions isn't one of them.

[island911]

Originally Posted by nostatic

p.... white males have occupied a privileged place in the US society. You can argue about where we go from here, but this "I worked for everything I have, I just want a level playing field, etc" essentially ignore the reality of the last 200+ years. ...

I will concede one advantage that the AWM has in this culture; The AWM is never tempted by cultural excuses for his failures. He knows that everyone has hurtles in life. ...he knows that his hurtles belong to him. He doesn't expect the playing field to be re-landscaped to fit him and provide some perceived "unfairness" short-cut.

[Flatbutt1]

Originally Posted by nostatic

snipped... I'm merely pointing out that white males have occupied a privileged place in the US society. You can argue about where we go from here, but this "I worked for everything I have, I just want a level playing field, etc" essentially ignore the reality of the last 200+ years.
snipped.

If this post had been about "angry middle class men" I would have had less of an issue with it. And it isn't about being PC.

So todays white man must bear the burden of 200+ years of oppression that he had nothing to do with? I guess that makes as much sense to some as a middle class black man being given 40 acres and a mule. He earned them through the oppression of an unrelated slave right?

But I'm still waiting for the white privilege to kick into my life. As a white man that had to leave college three times in order work(all the loan money was sucked up by minority students) I'm wondering where my white privilege was then. As an older white man now being left to wither on the vine as younger,less experienced,less qualified minorities are being promoted in order to fill a PC quota, I'm still wondering where my white privilege is.


As for the latter part of the quoted statement I have to agree as I stated in an earlier post. Otherwise ***** all bleeding heart liberal azzhats!

[968rz]

Angry White Man? You bet!
I came from a lower middle class family (government label for poor whites), and had to fight for the same things blacks did (education, jobs, housing. MONEY). I saw not only blacks, but every other race get given what they needed; all the while us "middle class" folks got nothing. Where was/is the United White College Fund, the NAAWP.
I have heard non-white mothers tell their daughters that "if you want those shoes you need to have more kids" (that’s no BS, visit a Wal-Mart and say "Thank you wellfare)
I overcame poorness, predigest (because I was poor) and lack of education (no grants for poor whites), to having a good life/Job and 2 Porsches. So can you.
Just give up the race cards (they are used up by now anyway) and get your a$$ to work. If this is too hard then go back to your motherlands were you are all the same (this goes for everyone not just blacks)

Sorry if I'm a bit off today, this crap just gets me going.

[Hugh R]

s Dick Gephardt liked to say, Your a lucky sperm.