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They certainly are beautiful to see, especially as the sun set behind them....
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Look at that oil rig and THINK why gasoline costs $4+/gallon. But then again, many of you will buy a pint (1/8 gallon) of bottle water at the AM/PM for $0.99 plus sales tax and not bat an eye.
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The real issue is that we need to move away from oil use.
Secondarily, there just is not that much oil left off our own shores -- we've been taping it for a quite a few decades. What oil _is_ left is not easy to get. It requires deep water drilling in many instances; and that ain't cheap. The basic problem is not whether Florida and California restrict drilling off their coasts (leaving La. as the rig festooned state), it is the issues above. And, yes, I've fished off of rigs and caught a lot of snapper - nothing new about that. Everybody has known it since at least the 1950s. Our rigs are much safer than most, but an accident can still cause a great deal of pollution. Not to mention the problems when the oil comes ashore - some chronic and some only when there are big storms. |
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There's quite a few studies, but generally it is believed that around half of all oil/gas "pollution" in the oceans is from natural seepage. Some studies estimate that natural seepage may significantly outpace human caused oil/gas pollution in the oceans.
Here's one such study: http://www.springerlink.com/content/bya6g7r7ceebanrl/fulltext.html Yes, I noted that a Chevron petroleum engineer is one of the authors, the other is from the USGS. This study appears to be well supported and is corroborated by similar studies. Abstract: Quote:
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 Red Sea?, North Sea? I was expecting too much.
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I worked on a few platforms off the coast near Long Beach when I was in my twenties, safer than the helicopter or barge ride over for sure. Plus you can eat really well there. Really well. Anything you want to eat, they'll make it for you. As much as you want. Nothing else to do except work, eat, and sleep on one of those.
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What isn't needed, is an energy plan. What is needed is to get the Stupids out of the way and let business decide what to do.
Nuclear wasn't stopped by a law outlawing Nuclear. It was killed by over regulating it to the point of being too expensive, compared to oil, gas and coal. WE STILL HAVEN'T HAD A COMMERCIAL NUCLEAR POWER PLANT DEATH IN THE USA. EVER! Can ANY other part of the power industry say that? Nuclear is THE safest power production in the US. My apartment buiding was all electric heat. It was built up this way in the middle 1970's because so much power generation was going Nuclear. If it had continued, we would be producing 90% of our power with Nuclear, all of the coal fired plants would have been shut down in the 1990's, acid rain would have been reduced without over regulation and we'd be producing a lot less CO2. We would also be able to use the coal and the Natural Gas in this country to run transportation, instead of making electricty, assuming that the cost of compressed natural gas and coal liquids competed with Gasoline.
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The Left never seems to get that they CAN'T have their modern luxury filled lifestyle with out some trade offs with environmental degradation. The Left wants a perfect world...of having their cake and eating it to...
The Left has to realize that being a participant in this society is also being a participant in environmental degradation. One hundred eight years ago there was no such thing as Refergeration, AC, Washing Machines, auto Dish Washers, (Few) Automobiles, Air travel, (Little) Electrification, Computers, (few) Telephones, Televison, movies, paved roads outside of the big cities or modern medicine among other things...let alone life expectancy... The policies of the Left don't want to acknowledge these facts of life.
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