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1990C4S 06-07-2017 04:44 AM

Patrick Roy made the 'early goalie pull' a thing when it worked for him (once).

The statistical reality is that the probability of scoring two goals with the goalie pulled is almost zero. Two minutes, three minutes, whatever. It's a guess and a very very long shot....

flatbutt 06-07-2017 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Por_sha911 (Post 9616110)
Pulling your goalie that early is a desperation move and a sign that you don't feel that the team can get it done short of a miracle.

I hope Bonino is well enough to play in about 10 days.

Game 5 will be the telltale of who will hoist the cup. If the big pekka plays like he has the last two games, the little pekka will not be on the cup again this year.

I agree, but if MM then steals game 6 in Nashville oh baby!

Por_sha911 06-07-2017 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 9616338)
Patrick Roy made the 'early goalie pull' a thing when it worked for him (once).

The statistical reality is that the probability of scoring two goals with the goalie pulled is almost zero. Two minutes, three minutes, whatever. It's a guess and a very very long shot....

Which is why it was a sign that Sullivan knew they were sucking badly. After all, in the finals it doesn't matter if you lose by 2 or 20. It is still a loss. That said it has been done:

Ducks score three goals with goalie pulled, stun Oilers with incredible double-OT comeback win | FOX Sports

Jim Horton 06-07-2017 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by por_sha911 (Post 9616110)

i hope bonino is well enough to play in about 10 days.

+1!

flatbutt 06-08-2017 07:24 PM

My oh me oh my...home ice

Buckterrier 06-09-2017 03:34 AM

Joe's rant, (coming up shorty), will be epic. Heck I might even not even sign in to read it.
The Pens were the Pens. Pretty much end of story.
Let's see what happens Sunday evening.

1990C4S 06-09-2017 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 9612835)
Well I didn't see that coming.

Recycled it for you.

I was afraid Rinne was going to prove me wrong. He was not good enough last night.

911 Rod 06-09-2017 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 9619033)

I was afraid Rinne was going to prove me wrong. He was not good enough last night.

It's like he was playing with his sister's glove. :D

Hawkeye's-911T 06-09-2017 10:31 AM

From my perspective, this has been a bit of a strange series for every game has been virtually decided in the first period. Check that; how about the first 10 mins. In short, the games were pretty much over by then - no effective 'push-back' results for the opposition. I also feel most of us agree 'laffers' like last night's blow-out are boring affairs in any sport even if it's your favourite team. Maybe from a purist's point of view, there were some interesting moments in the game but by & large, not a classic for the ages. Sunday's tilt, given the seeming importance of the home field advantage scenario, should favour the Preds but in the end, big Pekka has to exorcise his demons in Pittsburgh. I believe his save %age is in the mid to high 700's in the away games & that boys, just ain't gonna cut it if the series goes 7. I have every reason to believe there will be a 7th contest but I am just hoping for a more exciting type of "back & forth" game - 'fire-wagon hockey' if you will. With that in mind, I hope all have the good sense not to mention the defence vis-à-vis championships thing. Till Sunday....

Cheers
JB

flatbutt 06-09-2017 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye's-911T (Post 9619460)
From my perspective, this has been a bit of a strange series for every game has been virtually decided in the first period. Check that; how about the first 10 mins. In short, the games were pretty much over by then - no effective 'push-back' results for the opposition. I also feel most of us agree 'laffers' like last night's blow-out are boring affairs in any sport even if it's your favourite team. Maybe from a purist's point of view, there were some interesting moments in the game but by & large, not a classic for the ages. Sunday's tilt, given the seeming importance of the home field advantage scenario, should favour the Preds but in the end, big Pekka has to exorcise his demons in Pittsburgh. I believe his save %age is in the mid to high 700's in the away games & that boys, just ain't gonna cut it if the series goes 7. I have every reason to believe there will be a 7th contest but I am just hoping for a more exciting type of "back & forth" game - 'fire-wagon hockey' if you will. With that in mind, I hope all have the good sense not to mention the defence vis-à-vis championships thing. Till Sunday....

Cheers
JB

Can't disagree with you on any of what you've written. What I bolded reminds me of the double OT game seven between the Devils and Rangers in 1994. That sucker was epic even though it wasn't for the Cup.

Por_sha911 06-09-2017 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckterrier (Post 9619014)
Joe's rant, (coming up shorty), will be epic. Heck I might even not even sign in to read it.
The Pens were the Pens. Pretty much end of story.
Let's see what happens Sunday evening.

That's funny, I thought you had blocked me.
I thought the replay of Saint Sidney sitting on top of Subban and banging his head onto the ice and then getting only a 2 minute "holding penalty" was pretty typical of the NHL protecting the golden one.
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Buck will be in denial about it and say he deserved it. Doesn't matter if it was dangerous and could cause concussion or neck/spinal injury. After all, he didn't like that Subban had bad breath.

In the "good old days" this was just another day at the office but in today's NHL if someone did that to little pekka they'd get a 10 game suspension.

Rant? No. Outrage? Darn right.

The Preds sucked last night. End of story.

At this point my best hope is to see a game 7 even though the outcome would be a foregone conclusion.

billybek 06-10-2017 05:02 AM

No doubt that Sid should have had a more penalty time for that and no doubt in my mind that the referee should get his ass kicked for not intervening to help a player in a vulnerable position.
That ref was right there when Subban was getting his bucket rattled off the ice and did nothing.

Por_sha911 06-11-2017 05:10 PM

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How many can you name before reading the list below?
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LEM – Mario LEMieux
CRO – Sidney CROsby
KEON – Dave KEON
HULL – Brett & Bobby HULL
MESS – Mark MESSier
GRETZKY – Wayne GRETZKY
FED – Sergei FEDerov
OU – Ray BOUrque
RKE – Bobby ClaRKE
RO – Patrick ROy
YZE – Steve YZErman
LIDS – Niklas LIDStrom
ITO – Phil EsposITO
TROTTIER – Bryan TROTTIER
TOEWS – Jonathan TOEWS
BRO – Martin BROdeur
DA – Mike MoDAno
ANNE – Teemu SelANNE
ORR – Bobby ORR

JJ 911SC 06-11-2017 05:40 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Cup_winning_players

Total Number of Individuals Engraved on Cup: 2,528

First Team to Engrave its Roster: 1906-07 Montreal Wanderers
Year When Engraving Roster Became Annual Tradition: 1924

Most Names Engraved on Cup (one year): 55 (1997-98 Detroit Red Wings)

Most Appearances on Cup (player):

11 - Henri Richard (Montreal Canadiens)

10 - Jean Beliveau & Yvan Cournoyer (Montreal Canadiens)

9 - Claude Provost (Montreal Canadiens)

8 - Red Kelly (Detroit Red Wings & Toronto Maple Leafs), Jacques Lemaire, Maurice Richard & Serge Savard (Montreal Canadiens)

7 - Jean-Guy Talbot (Montreal Canadiens)

Most Appearances on Cup (coach):

9 - Scotty Bowman (Detroit Red Wings, Pittsburgh Penguins, Montreal Canadiens)

8 - Hector "Toe" Blake (Montreal Canadiens)

flatbutt 06-11-2017 07:58 PM

Let me be the first to say Bull Sheet!

WPOZZZ 06-11-2017 08:08 PM

Wow, A LOT of Boos!

rattlsnak 06-11-2017 09:00 PM

Well that sucked...

Buckterrier 06-12-2017 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Buckterrier (Post 9604811)
Pens in 6.
It should be a really good finals. But I think the Pens experience and firepower will win out.

Back in the 'Burgh :D

Both goalies were obviously lights out with the Press having to swallow a huge pill with their goal called back. Me thinks the refs tried paying them back with a couple questionable power plays.

Until next year Gents SmileWavy

flatbutt 06-12-2017 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Buckterrier (Post 9622556)
Back in the 'Burgh :D

Both goalies were obviously lights out with the Press having to swallow a huge pill with their goal called back. Me thinks the refs tried paying them back with a couple questionable power plays.

Until next year Gents SmileWavy

Yup, the Goalie's really played well, but that (IMO) quick whistle really sucked hard!

Here's to the Cup!

DaveE 06-12-2017 06:13 AM

I shouldn't have gone to bed at the start of the third...

Cup stays in the Burgh!


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