Stijn!!

[RKDinOKC]

This one? Did not know he was Irish.

[Jim Richards]

Isn't that a good source of fertilizer?

[GH85Carrera]

We did dig up several June Bug larvae and some earthworms. I killed the larvae but kept the earthworms. The worms were put back on the garden area on the other side of the sidewalk. I did know I am real ready to be done with the project. Maybe by the weekend.

[flipper35]

You know, once a project is done there will be another to take it's place. Never fails.

[Jim Richards]

Yep, even after you're "retired."

[Porsche-poor]

Originally Posted by flipper35

You know, once a project is done there will be another to take it's place. Never fails.

that is just mean guys. plain mean.

[RKDinOKC]

Just curious of what you guys think.

Company is giving everyone in the company and email account with web Outlook. There are about 300 employees that currently do not have email because they don't need it to do their job. The email account is so they can access their training, HR documentation, notices, and wellness info. All of the companies on-line documents are PDF. The are putting in several Kiosks with limited web access for these employees to access their info.

There are 3 licenses are being consideration for these employees.
None of them allow access to email with Outlook. All have active sync for phones.

Kiosk, $2/mo is a web email only account.
K1, $4/mo above with web Office apps.
Business Essentials, $5/mo above with ability to access shared inboxes/calendars etc.

Currently we have 3 licenses we are using...
All allow access with Outlook and have active sync.

Exchange Online, $4/mo web email and access to shared inboxes/calendars etc.
E1, $8 same as above with web Office apps and online archiving.
E3, $20 same as above with desktop Word/Excel/Powerpoint.

Most of our current users have boxed copies of Microsoft Office.

We have 125 with Exchange online with 15 using web mail (don't have boxed copies of office) and 250 users with E3 and only 119 of them have installed Office from their on-line iicense.

IT Director wants to get 300 K1 licenses for the employees to access the company because most of our current users have boxed office.

I disagree. In my opinion sharing would be more important so they could join shared mailboxes and access shared calendars, meeting rooms, etc. So I would go with Business Essentials for $1 more. If trying to save money get more Exchange Online licenses without the Office apps since all the company documents are PDF. For the same $4 of K1.


What do you think?

I know the IT director wants to get rid of all of boxed office copies, but at $20/mo per employee that would be very expensive considering a lot of our users have Office 2007 or Office 2010. They would be buying a new copy of Office every year. Microsoft is not doing it like Adobe. Abobe's monthly software subscriptions cost the same as their upgrade prices were to keep current instead of new copy purchases.

[RKDinOKC]

Early Good Morning Group...

Oh noo. Just noticed the makers of Myst, Cyan released a new game, Obduction. I've really enjoyed all their adventure puzzle games so far, Myst, Riven, URU. Basically because you wonder around in cool exotic worlds, figure out puzzles, and don't die off. This one is just under 20 GB and says it requires the latest processor, graphics cards, and system which usually means the worlds are rendered with a LOT of detail.

Am assuming the rest of my week and this weekend is now shot. Will be vacationing in the worlds and solving the puzzles of Obduction.

[GH85Carrera]

Good over the hump day folks.

Way bake in the 1980s my first PC was a screaming 4.77 MHz PC with only 640K of RAM. Black background and a few different intensities of green text. No graphics. There was a funny adventure game that was 100% your imagination for the visuals. It was all text. I think it was called the farmer's daughter. You would go in the front door and have to find the farmer's daughter's room. If you made a wrong turn and came across her brothers they would gang rape you and then throw you out the window. If you ran into the the farmer he would blast you with his shotgun. That was sometime in the early 1980s. It ran on DOS 2.1 so likely late 1983 or early 1984. I remember wishing I could get a full one MB of RAM, but 640 was all it could handle. Now I have a cell phone with 128 Gig of memory and several orders of magnitude faster CPU.

[RKDinOKC]

Yep there were a lot of those text based adventure games. They spawned the Dungeon and Dragons games were the dungeon master comes up with what the see instead of it being a program.

The first popular first person shooter was Doom and was really an upgrade of a fairly simple one called Castle Wolfenstien.

[Jim Richards]

My son used to play them. I pretty much stuck to engineering work on my computers. Boring.

[Geronimo '74]

I'm a Duke Nukem guy myself

[Geronimo '74]

[GH85Carrera]

I never did get into the shoot em up games. Or any computer games on my PC. I played a few arcade style games on my Commodore 64 and not much since those days.

Our current workstation would likely be a killer game machine. With the three very expensive graphic cards 128 Gig or RAM and a 12 core CPU and a stripped RAID solid state boot drive it would be a killer game machine. Ain't gonna happen.

[Porsche-poor]

morning all. this weeks PT is done. Now its time to rest and recover.

[flipper35]

Always did flight sims on the computer. On the shootem up games like Battlefield I prefer to..fly the helo and let others man the door guns to clear the LZ. Or fly the Harrier to support the ground troops and capture flags. Or sometimes I like to fly the Cobra or Apache to support the ground troops and capture flags. Otherwise I will run around in a tank or LAV.

I remember playing Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy as a text adventure game. Zork too.

Richard, why would you not want to be able to setup appointments and meetings easily?

[RKDinOKC]

If all an employee does is production work and only needs an email account to keep track of their training certifictions, hours/vac/sick/benefits, and wellness points/activities, don't think they would have a need to setup appointments or meetings. In fact, can't see them needing office apps either. Especially if adding features they only might use are going to cost another $900/mo or $10,800 a year. They will only be interacting with their accounts at one of a few Kiosk computers set up in campus commissaries.

They tried this before without the email accounts. Everyone was setup with a Blue Cross and Blue Shield web account for managing health insurance. Setup Kiosks in the commissary for people to use. We even put filters on the computers and made them private so no one could see unless sitting directly in front of the computers. The kiosks were never used. People waited until they got to the privacy of their homes.

[flipper35]

So it would be essentially $300 per month more total to be able to do most everything.

This is the same guy that thought it would be easier to move from Exchange to 365?

[GH85Carrera]

Back at the beginning of the new flower bed project I went to a local sprinkler supply shop and bought the drip irrigation system that is mostly above ground. Mrs Carrera was not wowed by that option because she had been reading on-line and looking at the totally different system. It uses a 3/8 inch plastic hose that you just punch the holes and insert a tee connection and water a specific plant. Since that is what she has decided is the best and no sites mention the commercial stuff like I had she asked that I take back the parts I had bought.

It is a small one man operation and his wife is the bookkeeper. I walked in and put the stuff on the counter and asked him "have you ever know a wife to just change her mind completely for no apparent reason" and he just stood there. After a 10 second pause he pointed over his shoulder and said "my wife is right around the corner, I refuse to answer your question on the grounds it might get me in trouble" I told him he is a wise man.

I did buy some other stuff but I still walked out with cash and the parts.

[RKDinOKC]

300 users, the difference in account types is $600 to $900/mo.

Yep and paid for 500 licenses for a year that we weren't using the cause the host took that long to migrate us. And I ended up doing it or it would have taken longer and cost even more.