Stijn!!

[RKDinOKC]

If only the stupid graphic artist guy they have asked could come up with a logo they like.

[Porsche-poor]

let me guess he stays home all day playing with his dog and fixing other peoples computer issues......

[RKDinOKC]

Sounds about right

[Porsche-poor]

well then he has the right idea.

[RKDinOKC]

Yeah, but the first logo he came up with didn't even have an airplane in it.

[flipper35]

Did it at least have a camera, image or map like image?

[Porsche-poor]

Possibly going with the "man was not meant to fly and take pictures" concept.

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by Porsche-poor

Possibly going with the "man was not meant to fly and take pictures" concept.

The man that started Ace Aerial in 1947. Wil Moore was a great guy. In his words he took early retirement at age 92. The reason he retired is not one insurance company on the planet would issue commercial insurance to anyone once they are age 90 or above to fly the airplane and take a picture at the same time. He still flew the oblique jobs when he was in his 80s. He had a long and perfect flying career. Never a single emergency, never a off airfield landing, never a damaged aircraft or damage to anything on the ground. He hung around the office for two years and had enough of just watching. He sold the company to a great guy. He was great but cancer killed him. His son, well no comment on a public forum. If he was on fire I might pee on him to put him out but I might have to drink a beer first.

Wil took his last flight ever on his 92nd birthday. He sold his personal airplane and the company shortly after. He live to be 98. He kissed his wife good night and walked upstairs to go to bed. His wife found him dead when she went upstairs to bed.

[RKDinOKC]

It was a google maps pin marker with a camera aperture were the black dot is.

Understand the guy is working on a logo with an airplane in it for them.

Do they have a camera that can take pictures from a jet?

[GH85Carrera]

We don't but it is possible for the high end really big boy companies. Operation cost for any jet is HIGH and jets really suck when trying to fly at 1,500 feet at 110 mph. We can rent a Cessna 152 for $90 per hour. A jet would be a tad more.

[RKDinOKC]

This graphic artist used to put together a slide that was the Word of the Day. It was a bible verse the company chaplain comes up with and the graphic artist guy would come up with a background picture that goes with the verse. Not just pictures of fields and meadows, etc. One verse talked about putting on the armor of God. The background was picture of Iron Man. Everyone enjoyed the pictures especially the Chaplain. Think the Chaplain was enjoying coming up with versus just to see what the graphic artist would do.

Well, this one verse was about life after death without God. Since the show Walking Dead was real popular the background was a few zombies. The Chaplain liked it. Some employees were offended even though it actually went perfectly with the scripture and shouldn't have been offensive because it was about those the weren't Christians. After all, it wasn't a picuture from Dante's Inferno. Anyway, its was the last time that employee did any artwork for the company.

Don't think he is going to put any zombies in the logo, well, unless they want them.

[flipper35]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

We don't but it is possible for the high end really big boy companies. Operation cost for any jet is HIGH and jets really suck when trying to fly at 1,500 feet at 110 mph. We can rent a Cessna 152 for $90 per hour. A jet would be a tad more.

You could get a refurbed unit from a Blackbird!

[RKDinOKC]

Maybe you could get Burt Ratan to design up a swept wing BD-5. Kinda like a Tom Cat version. You could Jet out to where the pictures need taken, sweep the wings out and go slow to shoot the area, then sweep em back and jet home.

You could patent the process and call it Jet-O-Rama™ Photography. The fastest and highest quality aerial photography available without the government getting involved.

[flipper35]

Only if it makes the Jetson's sound when they fly!

Or, make a small scale B-70 layout. It could go really fast and pretty slow with the flaps on the canards and drooping the elevators to compensate.

[RKDinOKC]

Or maybe you could jet out, deploy pre-programmed drones. Fly a holding pattern then sweep up the drones and fly back. Maybe even drop the drones off so they land at the imagery facility were their payload is downloaded. Then they are recharged ready to program for their next mission. Use the mini-jet to get the drones to and from the site.

Also maybe you could make a movie with a tornado that has sharks in it.

[Porsche-poor]

yeah go with the shark thing.

[GH85Carrera]

One of the many stupid rules of the FAA (there are more than one) is that to do commercial work from an airplane the pilot has to be a commercial pilot (good rule) but the airplane has to be a regular production aircraft. It can't have an "experimental" in the title. There are several neat airplanes we would like to be able to use, but they have the experimental label on them. Something that can haul butt to get to the location, and then fly slow and stable at the site and then haul butt home would be idea.

One of the guys that used to work at Ace Aerial was involved in aerial photography back in the 50s and 60s. He actually sold equipment to the CIA. He said one night there was a loud banging on the front door and two agents showed up. They told him to get cleaned up, dressed and ready to go in 30 minutes. They waited in the living room. They hauled him to a local Air Force base, loaded him in an airplane and they flew for many hours. He mentioned to one of the agents that he did not have his passport and the guy just glared at him. Many hours later after changing to a smaller airplane they flew on. He had no idea where he was. The landed at a small airport and they took him over to a U2 with no marking on it at all. The aerial camera he sold the CIA was not working right. He looked at them and said it might have been smart to tell me where and why I was coming here. Fortunately he did not even need parts. They had assembled the film backs wrong. The film magazine is matched by serial number to the canister. He had to take it apart, check the assembly order and it worked perfectly.
It was a standard camera with a really LONG lens for shooting from high altitude and getting a small area of coverage.
They made him wait at the airport until the pilot radioed back that the camera was operating properly.
He never knew if he was in Africa or South America. It was hot and dark was all he knew. They flew him back and he sent them a LARGE invoice that they paid.

He was fascinating to listen to. He used to buy all sorts of "surplus" aircraft parts from jet fighters. Each part was tagged and stored carefully and in perfect condition. After 5 or 10 years they would realize they need one of the parts back. He would sell them for 10 to 1000 times what he paid for them. He had a large warehouse to pay for.

[RKDinOKC]

Oh my, what a busy day. Hope no-one else is having a Monday this Friday.

[Jim Richards]

Hola, y'all. Is it really Friday? I thought it was...

[GH85Carrera]

TGIF all.

Golly dealing with government run tax web sites is easy and intuitive.

I had to file the sales taxes for last months sales today. We have until the 20th to get them filed, but no point waiting until the last minute. Create yet another username and password. Enter all the relevant information and of course there is one little button to go to the worksheet to enter even more detail about the sale. Oh and then they hide a window for me to type in an explanation why the entire sale is not taxable. Well the SERVICE of flying the airplane and producing digital files is indeed not taxed. Finally get page two finished and go back to page one.

In bold letters is a line stating that all the lines must have information entered and any line in red has an issue. The only red on the page is how much off premises low point beer did we sell. WTF? I drank a couple beers (OK more than just a couple but this is not a DUI stop) but we have not and will not be selling beer for off premises consumption.

So I call and actually talk to an friendly helpful man and he explains that everyone will be seeing that line about beer, and to just type 0.00 in there. Not 0 but 0.00. Well OK then.

TADA, that task is done.