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Or the other poor appliance with no internet.

I really think it is for the next generation of people that think everything needs to be on-line or on the cloud. I am a very digital guy, but I can't image any reason my appliance need the internet, and a way to be hacked, or be an entry point into my home network.

I do have my alarm system on the internet, but that is so I can monitor it via my cell phone. I can see the videos or turn the system on or off and I got to set a strong password. My thermostat is a programmable one, but it the simplest program ever. At 10:00 PM turn the heat back 4 degrees, warm back up at 6:30, and do that 7 days a week. Of course it turns the temp up at night in the AC mode.

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Old 12-10-2019, 06:05 AM
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My thermostat gets network signals from the electric company. It's so it changes the temp based on whether it is a high usage period or not. It is also programmable to go up and down based on times, 4 different time zones during a 24hour day. The network signal is only sent from May thru September. But it is not on my network. Which I am assuming would be easier to program if was on my network and had an app.

There was a show on TV where they got a fridge with internet. Started with giving instructions to cook. It morphed into scheduling and running their lives.

Since I order groceries on my computer and have them delivered, it would be kinda cool if the fridge did that itself and managed being able to order groceries to insure you could cook specific recipes or list recipes you have the stuff to prepare. Since I started getting pre-perpared meals I don't much from the grocery store. The meals I get are like fancy TV dinners. Think I'm changing to a service that just sends the foods and spices in the correct portions for a meal, and I cook it. The prepared meals are $10 each. The meals you cook are $4.50.
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Old 12-10-2019, 06:33 AM
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Morning all. I don't want a fridge on the net. Not sure I need anything but my computers and the cells on it.
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Old 12-10-2019, 07:10 AM
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You mean you don't want your home all automated where you can log in with your phone, look at cameras, and turn things on and off?
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I want a house like Sarah from Eureka the TV show. She did the laundry and folded it and it had a big screen in the bathroom. It had beer on tap in the fridge but I would fix that.
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Old 12-10-2019, 08:22 AM
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beer on tap? I'd never leave home.
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Old 12-10-2019, 08:44 AM
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Big screen TV, beer on tap, and padded seat with recliner back and I would never leave the bathroom!
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Old 12-10-2019, 11:06 AM
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I want a house like Sarah from Eureka the TV show. She did the laundry and folded it and it had a big screen in the bathroom. It had beer on tap in the fridge but I would fix that.
Yea, and the Sheriff was held hostage more than once, and had many issues with Sarah. Maybe the next version that works all the time and for sure keep the home defense system and blast cannons. It would also be creepy when my house automation system fell in love with a robot like Deputy Andy.
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Yeah, but it still comes out ahead overall. Everything has bugs and technically his was still in beta. Just don't build the OS on top of a defense project.
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the only thing automated in our house is the dog, he knows exactly when his walks are and never fails to let us know
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The 5 drive RAID is in my old box, and it is formatting. The little RAID made with 4TB drives took two days to format. I hope this one, made from 5 10TB drives does not take a week to format. It says it will be a 37TB RAID5 when done.
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Old 12-10-2019, 02:43 PM
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the only thing automated in our house is the dog, he knows exactly when his walks are and never fails to let us know
Our dogs are fully automated time keepers. They remind me it is 4:30 and time to feed them every afternoon. They do know to let us sleep in the morning and they get fed when my morning coffee is brewing, after I am showered and dressed.
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hmmm, get an Apple Card credit card and you get 6% back on a new iPhone and pay off in 24 months with no interest.
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Old 12-10-2019, 03:20 PM
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Yea, the big RAID is finally formatted. Now I just need to finish moving my setting and links and other stuff from the old machine, and start uninstalling programs. I am going to try to make the RAID drive bootable, and clone my current bot drive to it, and than the machine will only have a RAID5 drive. I gotta think about that.
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Moring all.

Raid isn't that bug spray...………….I kid.
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Old 12-11-2019, 07:14 AM
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Old 12-11-2019, 08:35 AM
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You are really infested for Raid 5. Used to have a Raid 50. Two Raid 5 striped. And they were in a Raid enclosure with everything duplicated with failover, ie, power supplies, network cards, drive controllers. It was so if any one component failed, it would keep going and you could just hot swap the part that failed. It was an AppleRaid. Wasn't very big though. The largest drives were 80mb. It held 14 of them.
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I could have set them up as RAID10. That is fully strip and mirrored. But it eats more space. 37.5 TB of RAID5 on my old computer will be a good start. I will haul it over to my partners house, and we will start copying only the important stuff and project we have on external hard drives. Anything very old will be deleted. Some files we have in three places. Once we have just the good stuff on the new RAID, we will format the old ones, and start over filling them up.
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I had a raid box that died. Set it to get files recovered. It was a fiasco. Did not really recover anything. Got lots of files, but nothing I could decipher.
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I have been using simple mirroring for many years, just a pair of drives acting as one. I have data that goes back many years. RIAD5 is sure not bullet proof, but as long as I get a warning that a drive has failed, and we replace the drive, all is fine. Usually the issues we had were with propitiatory network RAIDS and if the unit died, the data was in an unreadable format. With this setup, worst case the boot drives crashes, I just restore from a backup, and keep going. If that fails fresh install of Windows will let me see the data again.

To be truly secure, cost a fortune, and is just not practical for us.

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