Stijn!!

[Rick V]

I had braces way back when. that sucked

[azzarule]

and that's just from your perspective, imagine from your parents viewpoint, you hated them and they cost money as well!!

Oldest had them as well, not really bad teeth just a little crammed and will cause problems later when they get their wisdom teeth, neither has had to have teeth out just realigned.

[Geronimo '74]

Originally Posted by azzarule

G,

you will have to really tread carefully with the mother, as a mother myself, I know we can be a real beach to deal with. Even if her efforts are misguided they will still have the killer insincts of a mother, very nasty thing to deal with.

But if you really like the new gf, then you have to help, but be careful.

I'm guessing it will be a while before I even meet the mother...
First the ex has to go and then I can ease in. I'm a very likeable guy, mother in laws always like me a lot. Not sure about this one though...
Like I said, she'll have to accept that the ex is not going to be in her daughters life forever.
Motherinstinct is a nice thing but this is so twisted, I am absolutely sure that 99.9 percent of all mothers that hear her story would make eyes as big as dinnerplates....
Can you imagine accusing your daughter of being to blame that she got cheated on, and still root for the bf and continue doing so for seven years???
Words cannot describe the fuhked upness of this situation...

[azzarule]

got Miss Daisy's log books such as they are and finally the ignition key yesterday. Her log books are okay, they were quite compehensive from the second owner in 65 to about 75, then third owner until about 78 then not much after that , but at least I know that her mileage only went round the clock once, so she has 133K miles on the clock, and had a total engine rebuild at 90K. The guy I bought her from bought here in March81 and parked her in April81, so he didn't drive her much at all.

[Geronimo '74]

Originally Posted by azzarule

G, do you have a little boy smile?

beautiful eyes and a boyish smile.. I can make your heart melt...
(That's what I have been told by others)

[azzarule]

I am taking this flu ridden body to bed, hopefully it will be less horrible by the morning, should I live that long .....

[azzarule]

Originally Posted by Geronimo '74

beautiful eyes and a boyish smile.. I can make your heart melt...
(That's what I have been told by others)

lol

time for bed, night y'all

[Rick V]

Night Azzy I hope you feel better

[Rick V]

Random cellphone pic, for no reason what so ever

[Rick V]

Okay off to get this 1/7 of my life over with. Y'all have fun

[RKDinOKC]

The outside looking in view is that she is using the Mom and X as an emergency fall back security blanket. As incredulous as that may seem. Get involved with her without getting rid of the xbf/mom thing and you will be primed to appear on a episode of Jerry Springer. Her stories were the warning shots fired across your bow.

I assume there isn't a Dad around. It's the Dad's job to run off unwanted suitors. An nobody as run off this failed suitor. Women just don't have the objectivity to guard their daughters. Especially when the Mom doesn't have a Dad around to stop the BS and substitutes the xbf for the Dad for discipline.

She needs to be asked if she wants to marry this X, and to decide yes or no with no option of going back to him later or even remaining friends with this xbf. If she can't definitely answer no, then run. You have to remember most women like to *****, they don't really want a resolution, they just want someone to say, "Awe, there there."

If she does not want to marry him (remember no friends with this guy), SHE needs to tell the Mom it's me or the XBF. SHE needs to stop answering the XBF's calls, Don't let him in the door. If he persists, SHE needs to call the police, and if need be get a restraining order. If the Mom tries to talk to her about him, SHE needs to hang up the phone or leave. Pretty simple really.

The important thing for you is that SHE needs to be the one that resolves the situation. Let her know you like her, but not her situation, and if SHE doesn't resolve it you are gone. You can hang around while SHE resolves it, but STAY OUT OF IT. Don't get drawn in to the fight. Just step back and say, hey me and her are just friends, this is between you three to resolve.

[Geronimo '74]

Richard,
Thanks for your insight, nice to see my thoughts confirmed by others. (Rick and Azza Too)
And you are right, dad left long time ago. Don't know the details of that situation though.

But you're right, she needs to end this, and it's not my fight (although I wish it were).
I do like her, a lot, and this situation needs to come to an end.

But I don't want to push her into taking action because I'm afraid she might chicken out, leave me behind and continue like she has so long.

[RKDinOKC]

My brother made a rule for his daughter that she could not go out with anyone that didn't call and get his permission first. If anyone asked her out, she would just say call my dad, here is the number. If the guy was someone she wanted to go out with, my brother would go have breakfast with the guy to make sure if the guy was someone he could trust with his daughter.

Only one guy ever called her Dad to ask for a date. When the guys found they would have to ask her Dad if they could go out with her, they declined. My brother had breakfast every Saturday morning for a year with the one guy before their first date. After a year of dating they got married and now have 8 kids.

[Geronimo '74]

Originally Posted by RKDinOKC

...
If she does not want to marry him (remember no friends with this guy), SHE needs to tell the Mom it's me or the XBF. SHE needs to stop answering the XBF's calls, Don't let him in the door. If he persists, SHE needs to call the police, and if need be get a restraining order. If the Mom tries to talk to her about him, SHE needs to hang up the phone or leave. Pretty simple really.
....

Don't know if this was clear form the begining, but she still lives at home with her mom (and him apparently)
Boyfriend practically lives there and mom has taken him in like a son... Whenever something happens, she gets the blame for everything.

She does need to tell mom to make a choice but she is afraid that mom will choose for the ex and ask her to leave.. (can you friggin believe that???)
IMO, she should leave but that is not so simple. It is for us, not for her.

[slodave]

[slodave]

Good luck, G. Not a situation I'd like to be in.

[Geronimo '74]

Thanks Dave.
Indeed not ideal.
Worse for her than for me.

Everybody gets their share of doodoo, I guess.

C'est la vie. Whaddayougonnado?

[RKDinOKC]

My brother dated an old HS girlfriend. She had what I thought was a son and daughter in their 20s living with her. Later my brother found the "son" was an xbf of the daughter. This guy wasn't getting in the way of the daughter dating, but he was still living there like a son, bringing girls home for the night and all.

This "son" was a skate boarding doper drunk. He always getting in trouble, couldn't keep a job, always wrecking his cars, and even pissed his bed. The mom and grand mother were buying him cars and fixing the ones he wrecked. They forced the daughter, whom was working at good job paying for her own car, give him her car so he could go to work/party and she had to find her own way. They didn't help her at all, or even pay to fix her car when the xbf wrecked it. The dad was a deadbeat. The daughter had moved out and back several times but the bf stayed.

For 3 years after my brother stopped dating the Mom, the daughter would come by and visit my brother. She was moved out what she considered permanently and the xbf as still living with her Mom.

[Jim Richards]

Hang tough, G-meister. If your GF can live on her own, perhaps the Mother-Daughter-exBF dynamic can change. Until then, the status quo will likely prevail.

[GH85Carrera]

G-man, the solution is simple. Just marry the girl and move her in to your house.

I said simple, not wise.

Good morning folks.