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[Baz]

Originally Posted by Aragorn

For the longest time this season I thought Carol was protecting the kids by admitting to kill Karen and David. Her character arc has been pretty drastic this season. It is almost like she has lost her human caring side and become a killing machine.

IMHO....her behaviour and actions are merely a by-product of the zombie apocalypse. I think she has done whatever she felt was necessary to be done at the time to ensure the survival of the group.

But your point is well-taken - her character has evolved very dramatically.

Originally Posted by BReif61

Yes. Quick, "final" death vs. slowly dying and turning into a walker? Seems humane.

OK I can see that - just wasn't sure what you meant. Thanks for the clarification.

But I still think it could be argued letting Lizzie turn wouldn't be any less humane.

[onewhippedpuppy]

I've always seen the killing of the zombies as mercy. As if they are stuck in a form of purgatory until actually dead, unable to move on to the afterlife. It's a very Christian way to think about it I suppose, but it seems reflected in the show. For instance, when they look in disdain at a trapped zombie then go the other way, vs going out of their way to kill a friend who turned (Hershel for instance).

[Mr.C]

You ever notice how the characters that suffered years of abuse before the zombie apocolypse are the most capable in making tough decisions?

[Baz]

[A930Rocket]

Did Lizzie get bit and was fated to turn into a walker? Maybe I missed that.

She was definitely missing a few sandwiches in the lunch box, but I didn't see her demise from Carol. The way she was taunting the walkers and feeding them mice, I thought she'd get bit and turned into a walker.

[kinein]

So what happened to the baby?

[Heel n Toe]

Originally Posted by A930Rocket

Did Lizzie get bit and was fated to turn into a walker? Maybe I missed that.

She was definitely missing a few sandwiches in the lunch box, but I didn't see her demise from Carol. The way she was taunting the walkers and feeding them mice, I thought she'd get bit and turned into a walker.

Carol killed Lizzy because, as she told Tyrese, "she can't be around people anymore," in other words, because they couldn't trust her not to kill any of the rest of them. Apparently, Lizzy's belief that walkers were not a danger and should be allowed to "live" was something Carol knew she would probably not give up.

So... boom. Good riddance... I would've done the same thing with no hesitation. The baby would've probably been her next "experiment." She held her hand over Judith's mouth for an awfully long time in one of the previous episodes. That was a clue as to how twisted she was... that and all that sick stuff about giving rats to walkers.

[slodave]

She mentioned that she was just about to turn Judith as well.

[kinein]

Where was judith at the end, because there was 3 graves 1 with baby shoes hanging from a cross over the grave

[onewhippedpuppy]

I believe they were carrying Judith when they walked away from the house.

[ZOO]

Originally Posted by kinein

Where was judith at the end, because there was 3 graves 1 with baby shoes hanging from a cross over the grave

That grave was there when they arrived at the cabin. Judith was in the white pack on Tyrese as they walked along the rail.

I'd rather Lizzy had killed Judith, and left Mika . . . although if the baby is the messiah that would mess up the plot.

[rcooled]

Originally Posted by kinein

Where was judith at the end, because there was 3 graves 1 with baby shoes hanging from a cross over the grave

As the episode ended, Tyreese was carrying Judith like a papoose on his back. That grave with the baby shoes was already there when they came upon the house.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by ZOO

. . . although if the baby is the messiah that would mess up the plot.

That's an interesting theory.......

[Aragorn]

Originally Posted by Heel n Toe

Carol killed Lizzy because, as she told Tyrese, "she can't be around people anymore," in other words, because they couldn't trust her not to kill any of the rest of them. Apparently, Lizzy's belief that walkers were not a danger and should be allowed to "live" was something Carol knew she would probably not give up.

So... boom. Good riddance... I would've done the same thing with no hesitation. The baby would've probably been her next "experiment." She held her hand over Judith's mouth for an awfully long time in one of the previous episodes. That was a clue as to how twisted she was... that and all that sick stuff about giving rats to walkers.

That is kind of the same reason Rick kicked Carol out of the group. Rick couldn't trust Carol so he only banished her. Carol couldn't trust Lizzy so she killed her. I guess that is the difference between a Ricktatorship and a Carolocracy.

On the Talking Dead, Melissa McBride (Carol) seemed slightly off. I don't know if it was the heaviness of watching the previous episode or she didn't want to give too much away about the last two episodes of the season. She didn't seem like she could form a complete thought when asked certain questions. Maybe she is just uncomfortable being interviewed.

[rcooled]

Originally Posted by Aragorn

On the Talking Dead, Melissa McBride (Carol) seemed slightly off. Maybe she is just uncomfortable being interviewed.

I thought the same thing. At the time, I was thinking that she seemed to be so totally immersed in her character that she actually is Carol! She talked about her as if she were a real person. Maybe she was just caught up in the emotional impact of filming that very intense episode.
I saw Melissa McBride, along with other WD cast members, on Conan a while back and she was completely different...much more upbeat and at ease.

[willtel]

Originally Posted by rcooled

I thought the same thing. At the time, I was thinking that she seemed to be so totally immersed in her character that she actually is Carol! She talked about her as if she were a real person. Maybe she was just caught up in the emotional impact of filming that very intense episode.
I saw Melissa McBride, along with other WD cast members, on Conan a while back and she was completely different...much more upbeat and at ease.

I didn't watch all of the Talking Dead episode but I thought the intro was really strange with how somber everyone was behaving. They are actors, no one died, cut the melodramatic crap.

[ZOO]

Originally Posted by willtel

I didn't watch all of the Talking Dead episode but I thought the intro was really strange with how somber everyone was behaving. They are actors, no one died, cut the melodramatic crap.

I knew it was coming because I'd accidentally read a spoiler. I know it is only acting. But I was still very unsettled by that episode. Harming children, and the death of, have been a "no go trope" on TV and in movies for so long -- and that last episode shattered that.

[cantdrv55]

Am I the only one who thinks Melissa McBride is hot? I was never into older women but I think she has a nice face.

[rcooled]

Originally Posted by cantdrv55

Am I the only one who thinks Melissa McBride is hot?

No, you're not the only one. Add me to that list too.

[Baz]

Glenn....saved by his woman. What a wuss....