Dishwasher Question

[porsche tech]

Originally Posted by jwasbury

We got a Miele as part of the whole house renovation. Its very quiet, has three levels (top is for silverware), and appears to be very well made (mostly stainless interior). It does a very good job cleaning. This is the second dishwasher I have owned that doesn't have a heating element for drying and I wish it did. I end up having to do a fair amount of towel drying which I don't like. I'll gladly pay for the extra electricity to have completely dry dishes at the end of the cycle.

Same deal. After several years of renting our house here out long term, we did renovations, including new kitchen. The Miele dishwasher was disappointing as far as the drying process. I emailed them that I was disappointed and they responded that I needed to use their soap tablets and sent me a box of them. Same problem. Anything with a concave surface (glasses) on the top must be dumped in the sink and then dried by hand. Our old used up one dried them better.--Dave

[jwasbury]

Originally Posted by porsche tech

Same deal. After several years of renting our house here out long term, we did renovations, including new kitchen. The Miele dishwasher was disappointing as far as the drying process. I emailed them that I was disappointed and they responded that I needed to use their soap tablets and sent me a box of them. Same problem. Anything with a concave surface (glasses) on the top must be dumped in the sink and then dried by hand. Our old used up one dried them better.--Dave

^ I don't think this issue is unique to the Miele brand. The crappy drying "feature" I believe is something all of the energy saving models have (which is true of just about every brand at the higher end of their range). We had a brand new LG in the house we sold recently. Same deal...no heating element in the drying process. As you point out, its the drinking glasses and coffee mugs that are the problem as they trap water.

[KFC911]

Another plug for Bosch here....not a high $ unit either (they're all disposable crap at that price level imo)....had mine for 8-9 years now...no issues.

[jcommin]

Originally Posted by jwasbury

^ I don't think this issue is unique to the Miele brand. The crappy drying "feature" I believe is something all of the energy saving models have (which is true of just about every brand at the higher end of their range). We had a brand new LG in the house we sold recently. Same deal...no heating element in the drying process. As you point out, its the drinking glasses and coffee mugs that are the problem as they trap water.

They are all disappointing. The older ones back in the day dried better. Its called energy efficiency - I'm sure there are guidelines they must meet- something has to give.

[jcommin]

Originally Posted by KC911

Another plug for Bosch here....not a high $ unit either (they're all disposable crap at that price level imo)....had mine for 8-9 years now...no issues.

This I agree with!

[OldSpool87]

Have had a Bosch for 8 years. No problems. It's the best kitchen appliance we have and maybe the best household appliance.

Ours has all controls and lights hidden creating a clean face. Looking back, something on the door to alert to "clean" status would be nice.

[R K T]

Bosch.

Can barely hear it when it's washing.

[masraum]

We had an older model like this that was awesome.

https://www.kitchenaid.com/shop/-[KDTM354DSS]-407301/KDTM354DSS/

super quiet.

[VincentVega]

Originally Posted by OldSpool87

Have had a Bosch for 8 years. No problems. It's the best kitchen appliance we have and maybe the best household appliance.

Ours has all controls and lights hidden creating a clean face. Looking back, something on the door to alert to "clean" status would be nice.

good point

Mine has the red light shining on the floor so you know its running. I usually hear the water hit drain before I know its on.

[kach22i]

I though automatic dishwashers lead to male sterility and obesity.

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Other threads on this topic have said Bosch.

I don't have one, so there ya go.

[greglepore]

Another vote for Asko.

[Groesbeck Hurricane]

Well, we had been leaning towards Miele however we might be swayed a bit to Bosch. The few sites I could visit seemed to say the Miele had better reliability overall, Bosch a better repair network.

We are on septic (installed a hybrid system) so we will not use detergents with bleach in the machine. As such a plastic interior will work just as well as a stainless though it will not last/wear as well overall.

We are not brand loyal (Bosch and LG washers, LG dryer, Kenmore stove) but tend to shop scratch and dent and closed out models if they had good reviews overall. Next is to replace the temporary fridge we borrowed. Wife likes a specific LG model, we will see. That is a few months off.

[Danimal16]

Bosch

[aigel]

The Bosch are very good machines and even their entry models are very nice. The price goes up with noise insulation. I have a mid-grade machine - it has been flawless. I like the dot it projects on the floor when it is on. Zero controls or lights on the front. Also like that there are no heaters exposed. No more melted bottle caps or other things hanging down.

G

[1990C4S]

I don't understand the noise problem. I turn my dishwasher on and go to bed. I don't care how loud it is.

Do people run the dishwasher while they are working in the kitchen, or watching TV in the next room over?

[berettafan]

very happy with our 2 year old Maytag. Got stainless interior and quiet operation. sincerely dislike shopping for appliances. seems there are millions of people out there posting bogus 'best of' websites in the appliance area.

[Porchdog]

We got a Bosch 5-6 years ago. Does a great job, stays clean and is quiet. No problems.

[Groesbeck Hurricane]

Noise issue is for people who have the kitchen in the same room as other activities. In the home I grew up in we just closed the door into the kitchen, no more noise issues. In the new home our kitchen sits in one corner of the main room with a tall ceiling. If you wish to watch a movie or have conversations after dinner and want to run the dishwasher then you will have to work over the noise level.

In our other home the kitchen was off to the side as a sound buffer. The Frigidaire was quiet enough we never heard it. The higher end GE was like someone was running a blender in the same room, insulation and all. The GE had a plastic tub, the Frigidaire was stainless. In our first home we both stood at the sink and hand-washed as there was no room for a dishwasher (1100 sqft 2/1 home).

However we go it will not be with a top end of the brand, out of our budget level.

[aigel]

Originally Posted by 1990C4S

I don't understand the noise problem. I turn my dishwasher on and go to bed. I don't care how loud it is.

Do people run the dishwasher while they are working in the kitchen, or watching TV in the next room over?

Open floor plan with dining area in the kitchen. At my house the dishwasher is immediately loaded and fired up by the little helpers (kids). We may hang out at the table for an hour or two talking, reading or playing games. Similar when we have guests, dishes get squared away immediately.

Also, some people are noise sensitive ...

G

[pwd72s]

Our maybe 12 years old kitchenaid is still going strong with no problems. Probably not comparable to new ones?

It's Cindy's kitchen...I don't mess with it. If she doesn't have a complaint, neither do I. If she does have a complaint, then I hear about it.

(edit) Cindy looked it up. We bought in June of '07.