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Man, she is cleaning up rather nice isn't she. Good for you coming across her... and good for you to be one to enjoy her for what she is.
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If this car was in Slidell and only had water for a short period of time it was storm surge. The storm surge north of Lake Pontchartrain was pretty much fresh water storm runoff that got pushed back on shore for an hour or two. It would be like running your car through a car wash with the windows down. It's a pain, but not catastrophic. Cars on the Southshore were exposed to salt water and toxic substances in some areas. The way to tell in addition to looking at the body is to look at the magnesium parts, and to a lesser extent, the aluminum parts. Outboard motors retrieved from the Southshore are crusty. Porsche's and VW's, look at the engine and transmission cases. As many of you know, once the magnesium is exposed to salt water, it starts to disintegrate rather quickly. This car, two years + out from the storm is virtually unscathed.
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Here's my plan for seeing if she runs:
Remove plugs and rotate engine, to make sure everything feels right. New plugs, fuel filter and fan belt. Change transmission fluid and oil. Purge gas tank and have professionally cleaned. Disconnect fuel lines and run fuel through via fuel pump to purge gas/water. Reconnect fuel lines and pressurize system, checking for leaks. Turn the key! What else should I be thinking about? I want to try starting the engine to see what sort of shape it's in. I know I have many, many more projects fo this car. However, I like the suggestion of "reconditioning" over "restoration". Of course, I'll repair/replace anything that needs it over time. The car has so many things going for it, I want to salvage as much of the original equipment as possible. To be honest, I'll probably achieve long term restoration via many, many short term reconditionings.
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Jay is right, I'm not concerned. Having owned several pre-galvanized cars, I know there must be rust issues with the '67. The car isn't going to turn into a pile of rust powder overnight while sitting in my garage. I'll eventually get through all the projects, including a full strip down of the body and rust repair/repaint one day. For me, these projects will happen faster if I get to drive the car and be inspired along the way. If I do some more exploration and find the car isn't safe to drive, I'll take a step back a reevaluate.
Years ago, I completely dismantled and stripped my SC down to bare metal, primed, block sanded, etc. I know the danger of taking on big projects and getting overwhelmed. I want to take my time and do things right. Since it is my car, that's the way I'll approach it. The great thing is that this car is certainly worth all the thought, time and effort.
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Wow! What a find and how nice of the other couple. Porsche people are sure different. All they wanted was a loving home. Kind of like giving up the family pooch.
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great car and find, david. best of luck! it looks really awesome. i wish i was lucky as you.
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![]() Check out the thread I linked to on the first page and educate yourself. I'm no white glove restorer...just want this survivor to continue surviving.
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Hoy! Stripping it down to the bare bones and evauluating/correcting rust issues CAN and may very well be consistant with reconditioning.
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I don't know if the hidden areas that techweenie posted the great pics of (referenced by jkarolyi on p.1) are the same ones that Grady has posted about, but they will definitely require investigation.
I would wait until summer - it's dry then for one thing, and a lot warmer too -- then, I'd drill the holes, and stick hollow tubes up into the areas, connecting them to shop-vac or a hair dryer, or heat gun. I'd let each one run for a day or two. Then I'd try to spray something up in there - rust remover or similar. Finally, primer, paint, and wax (got Tectyl?). Then plug the hole up before the rains start up again. If you can get an illuminated borescope up in there, you'd be in great shape... I should probably do that on my '73 too.... |
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I replaced all the fuel lines, drained the tank, replaced plugs and oil, got a new battery and gave her a crank. With each rotation the engine turned easier until... with a couple blasts of flame from the carbs... it caught and ran!!! ..and it sounds great. I'm totally shocked.
I've got some issues to sort out before driving it, but the engine sounds spectacular. It needs to calipers rebuilt, new shift bushings and perhaps I'll have the alternator rebuilt. Some of you asked about the color. It's Burgundy Red (30868), a special order color for '67. I've got a video of the car starting, as well as my shocked expression. I'll figure out how to post it soon.
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Man, you have to be happy with that!!!
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After you get everything cleaned out, you may want to give this a try to prevent or slow down further rust.
http://www.ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=12954
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DeutschMark, thanks for the great link. There have been several very helpful links posted here. Sounds like I have some "drilling and filling" cut out for me. As mentioned by many of you, I need to make sure it's fully dried out first. I've made some test drills and found no water yet, but I have a ways to go.
Strangely, parts seem to come off this car easier than my SC. If I hadn't been told, I never would have known about the water damage. When the engine ran, the oil pressure gauge was on the mark, but the oil pressure light was on. Do the gauge and light use different sending units? Where are they?
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David, Great car and it sounds like it is in the right spot too. On the oil light being lit, was the emergency brake on at the time?
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