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Post Differences btwn 1976 912E and 914 2.0L?

I just found a photo of the engine bay of a 1976 912E.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=593189
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I thought that the two engines were largely identical except that 912E uses an L-Jet FI

Is there any more comprehensive list of the differences anywhere? Then owner told me it was more similar to the VW bus engine T4.

Besides the air filter box and air flow meter, from the photo of the engine bay I note:
* The throttle body is different and mounted backwards
* It has a dual outlet heating booster air fan like the early 914 cars
* Is that the fuel filter in the upper left corner of the photo or maybe smog equip? It looks like the fuel filter on my wifes toyota.
* The oil filler cap looks different


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A 2.0 914 engine with L-jet EFI is exactly what you see in the picture. Of course, it also has air conditioning (the compressor is the thing on the right with the pulley), and a smog pump (center with a pulley), and so on.

Other differences include the exhaust system, which obviously has to point the other way because the engine is in the back of the car and not the middle. At least some came with catalytic converters and/or thermal reactors. None of which are great for performance, particularly the way Porsche first did them.

I'm not aware of any internal differences between the late 2.0 (GC code) 914 engines and the 912E engines.

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this probably doesnt help, but it also has a 911 transmission.
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Th efuel filter is the same as a 911, the trans is a 923/915 and has a few differences so it can mate to the T4 that and it has the pre-74 915 shorter gear set. The motor even has a GC engine code and the 914 style dipstick. I've heard they made 2099 912E's because they had 2099 76 914 motors sitting around and needed a stop gap until the 924 came out. The engine tin, mounting bar, and exhaust are expensive, I found Parts werks still has some new exhaust stuff, the thermal reactor replacement pipes, for $250!!!

The rest of the car has some differences with the 76 911, but not nearly as many as the earlier 912's. Mine seems to have the 911 wiring harness, little things like the oil tank sender wires and other things are in the car even though it dosnen't need tham. A 911 motor engine swap is very easy on a 912E the mounts are all there, and all the brackets for the oil tank. Not sure but you might need a new input shaft on the 923 trans and the 911 throttle linkage that hooks to the trans isn't there. The throw out arem is a cross between the 901 and the 915 trans.
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...and another thing the 912e is galvinized so there should be no rust on the car. FYI the 912e on E-bay has updated/non-original mirrors and headlight bezels. The steering wheel looks like its from a newer 911 and the window mouldings (and door handles) were originally chrome. It appears someone painted over the chrome so who knows how long it will last.

Burcsh still makes mufflers for the 912e, personally I hate Anza's.
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Well the 912 E came as the 914 had stoped in production. Karmann was runing out off capasity as the BMW sales boomed and the Scirroco became a big hit too. VW killed the 914 anyhow. The 76 MY was for US only and a mixed 2 month run to the end of 75. Porsche had to much orders on that car and jused the 912 to fill the gap. The thing was when the new 924 was anounced some rushed to the dealers to order a new 924 while others rushed to get a last 914.

The 912 E is basically a 911 and Porsche had the plans for that allready in the shelfs and just needed to make the special 912 items.

The Type 4 was originatet by the Porsche for VW and VW engenieering spend millions to turn the fantastic base engine into a typical VW. Now after the 914/6 was to expensive VW didn´t had a engine to follow up and so Porsche just got there old strked and missussed type 4 back and made the 2,0 out of it by using just the base tuning techologies. VW said thanks and used the new cranks ( the raw is the same Porsche just made other journals and new rods ) with there old heads on the Bus. ( 2,0 70 HP ).

Porsche had in fact an massive overhung on 2,0 heads they allready ordered and why junk good stuff ? Well today we would be happy about the overhung.


BTW the 74 on cars had a anodized aluminium window frame and the car is a black respray on white.


Grüsse

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