Why do people purchase the 928 and can't afford?

[mikeesik]

This car is almost a do-do bird.
Can I ask the owners on this forum why?
Please don't give me a lecture otherwise.

It is almost dead, with very few exceptions.
I love this car but it is handled like a crew slut on Captain Cooks' journeys.
I will bite my tongue -for now-.
Selling my 87 experience...christ almighty.

[Dean_Fuller]

Some people should not be allowed to own cars like these. My brother bought and just sold a 1979 Corvette ( as an investment..yes he made a little money ) but the car was so red necked it would make you sick. Repairs just this side of duck tape and chicken wire. I see the same thing when it comes to 928's. Sad.

[928Shane]

I have often said some people should not be allowed to own tools.

[dcrasta]

PICS or it didn't happen.

And rich people muck up repairs also. Just depends on how smart you 'think' you are.

Some people never even seen a FSM but they just jump right in with ductape and tools.

[lfausty]

to stretch the four letter word as far as it can go. HOPE! mines going to be the one that runs like a rocket 24/7 nothings going to ever be needed, pony up the money and the 4 letters scramble ufkc. youd think its got no cup holders it be passed right by,

there used to be job stability , homes, achieve basic means. where it became a barn find/rare/antique when peeps just put things away for whatever future reason.

instability cant hang on to things,history/worth/skilled and the entitled generation. reward before effort. bad mix for the pcar.

[Danglerb]

Nobody believes how expensive a 928 is to fix.

Nobody believes a nice looking 928 that runs OK, could need $15k in repairs right away.

Maybe one owner in twenty takes their 928 to a good shop and says make it like new, or give it a full service or whatever, its fix this broken thing so it runs.

Many shops (and owners) don't know how to fix a 928, and don't learn that they don't know until they break stuff.

[Danglerb]

And the big one, NOBODY willingly sells a great condition 928, 99% that are on the market are money pits or projects the owner is tired of feeding, and stopped fixing maybe years ago.

[SanDiego928]

I cant afford one but I bought it anyhooo......I like it and it breaks but I fix it and drive some more. there is no way I am putting in 10k in deferred maint. to have a 5k 928. Just saying.

[tisilrad]

I own an 87 S4 and though i have had some trouble, (as you will on any used car)i have worked through it and it now performs as my daily driver. I am a master technician however and honestly do not suggest to anyone who was not capable of working on their own car to buy one of these. I guess given the info out there on these cars someone could learn how to do anything on them but most people just do not have the patience. They are expensive to repair but that should be expected! @mikeesik...if you honestly think a esprit, jalpa or testarossa is better you are in for a very big surprise...i have worked on a testarossa and they are unimpressive, and the other two will provide you with a new lesson in auto electrical systems(not that the 928 is any better but why give up one and go to another?).

[tisilrad]

I own an 87 S4 and though i have had some trouble, (as you will on any used car)i have worked through it and it now performs as my daily driver. I am a master technician however and honestly do not suggest to anyone who was not capable of working on their own car to buy one of these. I guess given the info out there on these cars someone could learn how to do anything on them but most people just do not have the patience. They are expensive to repair but that should be expected! @mikeesik...if you honestly think a esprit, jalpa or testarossa is better you are in for a very big surprise...i have worked on a testarossa and they are unimpressive, and the other two will provide you with a new lesson in auto electrical systems(not that the 928 is any better but why give up one and go to another?).

[SanDiego928]

Originally Posted by Danglerb

And the big one, NOBODY willingly sells a great condition 928

+1 on that one. Key words "willingly".

I have thought about upgrading. I have seen some pretty sweet 928s for sale recently by fellow members of sites and maintained at top notch 928 shops for what I would consider good buys. But these are not your ordinary 928s in CL.

I bought mine fror 3k and put 600 dollars in parts and a whole lot of time. Worth 3k I figure on a great day. It has been a very good, well used 928. But I drive it and forget all about upgrading. I actually think it gets better the more it is driven.

[newold928]

Before i Bought(traded ) for my 928 i made a little check list of the most Prevalent problem's from this forum. I went through the list and then purchased(traded) the 928. i was skeptical at first almost afraid to do-it but like most of us here I made the mistake of driving it. I did all the simple repairs before using. The elec/vac/belts/oils/fluids etc.
The only thing i cant find is the damn Euro speed-o ( Thank u GPS)

I still have some oil leaks interior work that needs mending the roof upper gasket needs new one Left rear 1/4 molding ??? Missing( i think it blew off) But over all a great car that i love.

Because of my resent employment status the funding has stopped and i may have to depart with my Baby. It's going to be a sad day form me!

[curtisr]

A very interesting thread and even more interesting posts.

I have often thought that my 928 ownership is not unlike dating a really pretty girl: this could be an expensive venture and it may not last for ever but, boy oh boy, it will be amazing and the stuff of memories that I wouldn't trade for anything. After all, a little bit of love is better than no love at all.

My friends will tell me that I am a lucky so and so and not believe the whole thing either. And you know what the best part is? I'll have the pictures to prove it. :-)

[mikeesik]

Originally Posted by tisilrad

I own an 87 S4 and though i have had some trouble, (as you will on any used car)i have worked through it and it now performs as my daily driver. I am a master technician however and honestly do not suggest to anyone who was not capable of working on their own car to buy one of these. I guess given the info out there on these cars someone could learn how to do anything on them but most people just do not have the patience. They are expensive to repair but that should be expected! @mikeesik...if you honestly think a esprit, jalpa or testarossa is better you are in for a very big surprise...i have worked on a testarossa and they are unimpressive, and the other two will provide you with a new lesson in auto electrical systems(not that the 928 is any better but why give up one and go to another?).

Hello.
I never meant this as a comparison of my vehicles that I wish to have next.
I never said that the other exotics are better-you did..dad!

You are jumping the gun.
I too, if passionate can fix almost anything. I will not refer to wood and wire though to fix the vehicle.
I have no reservations about pulling out a Ferrari engine nor an electrical problem on a Jalpa Lamborghini. I just won't change what the factory has already done.

I would never purchase one of those , including the GTS; especially if it was 'touched.'
Once again, I've owned the 928 for over 15 years. I have an exploded view of this vehicle in my head due to experience and working on almost every assembly and system.
I love the 928. Something about it agrees with me.
But I will always give it respect that it deservers by
-AVOIDING WOOD AND WIRE.

[mikeesik]

I sold my 87 to my Bud. Due to a somewhat desperate sale.
I am flush with cash but right now it is intangible.
If I wasn't desperate, I'd ask $20,000 for it and sit.
-And I would.
Then again , I'd never sell!

I would like to see this car get some respect.
If I won a Lotto-big dollars, I'd pass it along to 928 owners to make their vehicles clean.

I can't stand seeing this vehicle comparable to the 84-87 corvette.

[mikeesik]

Originally Posted by Danglerb

Nobody believes how expensive a 928 is to fix.


Many shops (and owners) don't know how to fix a 928, and don't learn that they don't know until they break stuff.

You are very right about that.

[curtisr]

Originally Posted by mikeesik

I have an exploded view of this vehicle in my head.

Funny, me too...
I just hope that I'm not in it should my vision become reality.

[silver89]

The first 928 (silver 89 S4) I bought was a 1 owner car with 23K miles and totally original and non bastardized . I have religiously maintained it and it has performed without a hitch for 16 years and now has 98K miles. I just found a red 91 928 GT with 24K miles and again 2 owner car not bastardized, and I'm doing deferred maintenance to start the "love affair" over again.

My 89 is now relunctantly for sale as having 2 does not make sense The 89 is very original with most all maintenance done and kept up. It will be a great car for the next person.

Finding 1-2 owner cars is important since if they could afford it new they usually kept it up on maintenance.

[curt_924]

I have owned my 79' now for 15 years. It's been a wonderful car although for the last 2 years she's been driven very very little. I'd love to sell her and move on.. but I can't. I have that emotional attachment to her that doesn't make sense to sever for what $1500-2000?

This might sound rough so I apologise in advance. This has probably been stated here before...
The 928 is a redneck supercar. People buy the car for $2000-3000 (because they can) and get great performance out of it. They drive it until something really big breaks and by that time it has accumulated many many small repairs that were not mission critical.
The 928 was originally the top of the line porsche. It was and still is expensive to fix and maintain (comparatively). Like Ferrari's or Astons, 928's were originally bought by the well to do. Unfortunately the 928 depreciated like a rock while cars such as the testarossa maintained their value (depreciated less). As such, "rich" owners bought them again as 3rd, 4th and 5th owners. High price of admission meant could "afford to fix and repair". 928's dropped in value and it doesn't make sense to spend $1600-2000 to fix a $5000 car.

I used to wait for the 928 to appreciate in value. I'm not sure it ever will. It's not a quintessential Porsche. I've moved on to Ferrari's and if mine is any indication.. half @$$ repairs even happen on FCars. The key is limiting the accumulation of these repairs.

[DZGunner]

I may be a poor college student right now... but i promise you the day im a millionaire dealership owner, my 928 s4 will sit beside a new Ferrari in my garage. Never giving it up.