Picked Up a Keeper, Marine Blue 964

[Marine Blue]

Originally Posted by speedster911

+++^^^+++ Perfect stance

Thanks! It took some time to get the front dialed in as I wanted close to RS so the car won’t bottom out. This is just a touch lower than RS height front and back. If you’re curious just how low a KWV3 will go in the front, here’s what it looks like with the perches set all the way down.

[Marine Blue]

I have now had some seat time with the new shocks and I have to say the ride quality, road holding and handling of the car are significantly better than before. For anyone looking to upgrade suspension I would definitely put the KWV3’s on the list of of shock options.

Here are some additional pictures of the car with the suspension settled a bit, these were taken at Luft 10 earlier this year. The last picture is of my latest project that has been consuming my time .

[Cobalt]

Looks great
Merry Christmas

[speedster911]

Car looks great!! What color is the new project?

[Marine Blue]

Originally Posted by Cobalt

Looks great
Merry Christmas

THANKS! Hope you have a great 2025!

Originally Posted by speedster911

Car looks great!! What color is the new project?

Thanks! I’m very happy with it now, it took some time but most everything has now been addressed. Future changes include Steve Wong Chip, maybe a LWF and Clear Bra.

The 944 Exterior is Azurite Blue, Interior is Cobalt Blue.

[slam19s]

Looks great!

[coeauto]

Nice collection

[Marine Blue]

This next update is likely a bit trivial to most but I still think it may be of some help to anyone who battles OCD

During one of the concours last year the judge handling the storage areas of my car pointed out the gas tank cover sticker and that combined with some polishing dust (from the recent paintwork I had done for rust repair) I got dinged nearly .5 a point. I recall that my Targa also had the same issue but I never got around to replacing it.

Addressing the dust was easy enough but the sticker proved to be a bigger challenge since there weren’t any replacements available through Porsche, Pelican or other US suppliers. I started searching some of the overseas aftermarket suppliers that were reproducing stickers and found it at CarBone in Poland.

Replacement was straightforward, I removed the old sticker which crumbled as I removed it and I removed any residual adhesive. I then polished the area and wiped it down with isopropyl to remove any residue. I used blue painters tape for alignment of the new sticker which was easy enough to apply. Some pics…..

[teeitup]

Nice upgrade.
Also, thx for the tutorial on the 993 Forum on replacing wiper blades. I didn't realize they needed to be parallel rather than perpendicular to the wiper arm to slide off.

[Cobalt]

Nice Work however IMO you should carry a copy of the Parade or local rules with you. The dust IMO is .2 max the sticker you shouldn't have been dinged for. They nearly all do it and it is original. It isn't torn only lifting. I would have dinged you for the dust but the sticker is a Judge who should go back to Concours 101 and study. Or just not be such an arse. It reminds me of the time I got dinged for the most minimal surface corrosion on some original hardware. It is only noticeable and slightly so in direct sunlight. I got dinged .5 for each piece of hardware despite being told in the judges meeting that we combine things like this and a max of .2 deduction per every 3 instances. I find very few judges know what they are doing or listen to the lead judge these days.

Did you discuss it with the lead judge? If so what did they he/she say?

So this was one of a few I received a .5 deduction for. Some judges play games so others might win or they just have no clue. This isn't parade and it isn't down to best in show.

[Marine Blue]

Originally Posted by Cobalt

Did you discuss it with the lead judge? If so what did they he/she say?

So this was one of a few I received a .5 deduction for. Some judges play games so others might win or they just have no clue. This isn't parade and it isn't down to best in show.

.5 deduction for what appears to be nearly perfect hardware, that’s absurd.

The lead judge was absolutely clueless and in all honesty should not have been judging at all IMHO. I literally had to explain the timer rules to him as I was the first car to be judged. He also overlooked so many exterior flaws on competitor cars which would have skewed the results in my favor. The engine judge was also friends with the owner of 993 I was competing with and I watched her inspect the engine, it was literally a half hearted effort vs mine which was a deep dive into crevices I could barely reach. When I got my scoresheet and saw the deducts I didn’t feel like arguing with them and left. Some of it was deserved and it helped me improve the car going forward but, I definitely don’t think it was fair. It doesn’t matter though, it’s not about the winning as much as it is improving the car.

[Cobalt]

I get it. Sadly Concours just isn't what it used to be. Don't get me wrong there has always been politics and funny stuff but lately nobody cares and they just want to go to a C&C or have an ego to please. I could care less about another trophy I have boxes of them I just want the event to be fair which is not always the case. I really go for the club & the social aspect. I enjoy judging others cars. I pride myself on being fair and impartial. I have judged some incredibly nice cars over the years and helped many on the path from 50 point deduction car to .5 deduction car.

[2mAn]

Originally Posted by Marine Blue

Finally the suspension and shifter work is getting wrapped up. Here’s a shot of the corner balance, these weights are with about 1/4 tank of gas and ballast removed from the driver seat.

Is this in KG, so 3300lbs+? ... or was that just the cross weight so 2990?

[Marine Blue]

Originally Posted by 2mAn

Is this in KG, so 3300lbs+? ... or was that just the cross weight so 2990?

Cross weight so 2990 lbs.

For reference at the time of weigh in the car had an Odyssey lightweight battery (23 lbs), a primary bypass Cup Pipe and the Augment wheels. The wheels aren’t that much lighter but the battery and exhaust do shed some weight.

[Marine Blue]

It’s been far too long since my last update! The 964 continues to be a blast to drive and very reliable overall but as with any 35 year old car there are always some mechanical needs and improvements.

With the help of a friend I have accomplished a few things this year. First up, the car needed to be realigned after the suspension settled. I also had an opportunity to wring it out in the canyons and found the front felt a touch loose in high speed sweepers and a touch slow on turn in. We made some changes to the settings and I also adjusted the front rebound to address the loose feeling. The results are incredible, it’s crazy how capable and confidence inspiring a 35 yo car can be. Here’s a picture of the car getting realigned:



When we were finishing up the alignment my friend noted something that I and all the mechanics that had worked on the car in the past didn’t catch. He noted that one of the motor mounts had a 993 part number and the other was the original mount from 1990! Apparently a previous owner thought it would be fine to change just ONE motor mount instead of both and of course the old mount was completely collapsed. So this resulted in a follow on project to install a new set of motor mounts. After lots of research I decided on the Porsche RS mounts instead of the Wevo which is what I used on my Targa. Overall the change was dramatic and I’m happy with the choice. The shifting was the first thing I noticed, I had a slight notch going into 1st and 2nd which is now completely gone. I also had a slight slow speed clutch chatter in reverse that is now gone. I haven’t had a chance to test it too much in the corners but I have noted that the car settles immediately into a turn and also settles faster in transitions. Finally there’s a touch more engine and exhaust noise in the cabin but the chassis feels very tight, like a new car really. Here are some obligatory pics.




Last but not least, I’m towards the tail end of preparing for another concours. The calipers and rotors are holding up well even after some weather and a few thousand miles.

[rbogh901]

Yes, those mounts make a lot of difference. Good choice. Wevos are also nice. Motor mounts are now high on my list when I start with a new car.

[rbogh901]

What did you settle on for alignment specs?

[Marine Blue]

Originally Posted by rbogh901

What did you settle on for alignment specs?

I had them written down somewhere but can’t seem to find them now, I’ll post them as soon as I find them.

Some pics of the concours prep: