Are "hacked" cars the next big thing ?

[pmax]

We know how much we hate the hacked turbo, wide fenders, chopped top cars.

Well ?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/896594-73-rs-look-hot-rod-mexico-blue-3-2-a.html
And then he found a top custom coachbuilder to make it into a coupe.

[Rick Brooklyn]

That's techweenie's friend so he gets a pass

[Rich Gas]

Ridiculous price...friends don't let friends buy a targa....he did make amends by converting it. Notice this market is full of Targas and convertibles...people are keeping the real coupes, selling the junk.

[Flynt]

Had an actual comment, thought better of it.
"They see me trollin"

[Last911]

Originally Posted by Rich Gas

Ridiculous price...friends don't let friends buy a targa....he did make amends by converting it. Notice this market is full of Targas and convertibles...people are keeping the real coupes, selling the junk.

What's the difference between a Targa and a Coupe? (Except for the price of course).

And you are calling Targa 911's junk? Are you a Porsche 911 enthusiast? Seems like a strange stance to take.

[Nachtfalter]

Originally Posted by Rich Gas

Ridiculous price...friends don't let friends buy a targa....he did make amends by converting it. Notice this market is full of Targas and convertibles...people are keeping the real coupes, selling the junk.

I'm amazed that you don't feel the least bit lame posting a statement like this. Driving an open Porsche (550, 718, 908, 910, 917, 936, speedster, roadster, 911 etc....) is one of the purest and finest driving experiences man can have.
I have several Porsches, I'm a lucky guy, especially on days I can drive my open 911.

Can you imagine Mark Donahue demanding Roger Penske put a roof on his 917-30?..... because we all know a legit Porsche has a roof.

Do you even know who these people are I'm talking about or do you just drink Porsche forum Kool-aid all day and spew out nonsense?

[SilberUrS6]

Originally Posted by pmax

We know how much we hate the hacked turbo, wide fenders, chopped top cars.

Well ?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/896594-73-rs-look-hot-rod-mexico-blue-3-2-a.html
And then he found a top custom coachbuilder to make it into a coupe.

I don't know which "we" you are talking about - did your boyfriend get you pregnant again? Anyway, that kind of hotrod would be hard to duplicate for that price. If you're looking for a longhood hotrod, or an RS replica or tribute, this car has a pretty low cost of entry. As to why someone would take a 73 Targa and make it into a coupe? That's a real head-scratcher.

[Rich Gas]

Yawn....Targas are the ultimate compromise. Flexible, heavy, ugly....cheap. A 917 is not a Targa.

[Last911]

Heavy? The weight difference is negligible.
Flexible? Sorry you're not that good of a driver to notice.
Ugly? Nah, that rear window is a work of art.

I guess I see the positive in things and you see the negative. I'm happy to own a 911, but it seems like you hate 911's in general. Begs the question why are you on this forum anyways? All these cars below your level must be killing you! lol

[violation]

Originally Posted by Rick Brooklyn

That's techweenie's friend so he gets a pass

kinda new here, but who is techweenie and why does that matter?

[Rick Brooklyn]

Originally Posted by violation

kinda new here, but who is techweenie and why does that matter?

He's a pretty cool guy that has a ton of posts here

[Rick Brooklyn]

Originally Posted by Last911

Heavy? The weight difference is negligible.
Flexible? Sorry you're not that good of a driver to notice.
Ugly? Nah, that rear window is a work of art.

This. Targas are cool and I don't understand all the hate. I don't need to pull 1G on the skidpad on a 40 year old car, I got other cars for that.
And Targas are named after a badass race on dirt roads in rural Sicily.

[Nachtfalter]

Originally Posted by Rich Gas

Yawn....Targas are the ultimate compromise. Flexible, heavy, ugly....cheap. A 917 is not a Targa.

You know your 84 coupe is not fast enough for stiffness to even matter right? Please tell me your entry level 911 isn't the basis for all your attitude.

[techweenie]

Hey, Mike is my friend, but he does do random stuff. Having driven the car as a Targa, I was flat horrified by his plan to convert the car.

Having seen the result, I am not horrified. I am impressed. Mike chose a top body/paint guy to do the conversion, and it's pretty much undetectable. I b*tched at him for skipping popouts in favor of fixed quarter windows, but otherwise, the conversion is really excellent. Targas have extra strengthening in the corners of the cabin, and so as a "Couga," the chassis is stiffer than a stock coupe.

I see a lot of "hacked" early cars and Targa-to-cab and even coupe-to-cab conversions are not that uncommon. This is my first experience with a Targa-to-coupe conversion, though I'm sure it's been done before...

[matt930s]

Just ****ing ignorant.

MattR

Originally Posted by Rich Gas

Yawn....Targas are the ultimate compromise. Flexible, heavy, ugly....cheap. A 917 is not a Targa.

[ELZ's930]

C'mon, they're all cool and we would all be happy to wave at another 911 enthusiast on the road regardless of coupe, targa, cab!

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by Rick Brooklyn

He's a pretty cool guy that has a ton of posts here

While true, I don't know that that is really what matters. What matters is that he's worked on bringing back a lot of rough cars and making them nice again, then selling them to the community. He also acts as matchmaker for a number of members and non-members, finding cars and bringing them to buyers instead of letting them rot away in a garage hidden. He is known here and elsewhere as a straight shooter. Sometimes he's selling rough barn finds and other times he's selling something that's seen a lot of time and money put into it. But regardless of what it is, he tells it like it is and you don't have to enter the conversation with trepidation that you are dealing with a snake.

As for this car? Looks like a nice car to me. I saw the ad on Samba last week. There was a time when many targas were converted to coupes for racecars, often with a carbon fiber roof. When you look at a hot rod like this, I don't think the targa vin has any meaning. It is a hot rod. A hot rod will never be worth what its vin equivalent would be worth in stock form. Some hot rods are worth way more than a stock car. Others aren't worth much at all. But the actual vin or origins as a targa? Meaningless on this car.

[trader220]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

While true, I don't know that that is really what matters. What matters is that he's worked on bringing back a lot of rough cars and making them nice again, then selling them to the community. He also acts as matchmaker for a number of members and non-members, finding cars and bringing them to buyers instead of letting them rot away in a garage hidden. He is known here and elsewhere as a straight shooter. Sometimes he's selling rough barn finds and other times he's selling something that's seen a lot of time and money put into it. But regardless of what it is, he tells it like it is and you don't have to enter the conversation with trepidation that you are dealing with a snake.

Matt beat me to it.

I don't know tech personally. What I do know is this... he's been a great contributor to this forum for a long time. I have bought and sold quite a few cars over the years here. Quite often I have solicited his opinion, especially on west coast cars, since I am back east. Typically he either knows the car or points out things even I ( a well seasoned buyer) missed. I have seen him sell a good number of cars here as an honest seller with great disclosure and I have seen him broker a number of deals which both sides were happy.

IMO his integrity or validation as a seller and forum member need not be questioned.

With regards to this car. Good luck building one to this standard for the price offered. Personally unless you're doing all the heavy lifting yourself you wont be able to do it for the asking price.

Does that mean this car is a deal? Not really, if it was a smoking deal the market would have scooped it up already. As with all modified cars, the builder rarely gets his money back. It also takes a bit more time to sell as you have to find a buyer who wants those exact mods. Does that mean this car is over priced? Not really, it just takes time on a modded car. Personally its more than I would want to pay were I in the market for one like it but its not grossly over priced.... No one has posted it on the "Prices that make me Laugh" thread.

[Blackbyrd]

I've seen this car in person even sat in it and turned it on
While visiting a shop,

Car looked phenomenal to me
Smelled and looked great inside, paint was good
I fell off my chair when I heard it was a targa ! I couldn't believe it and couldn't see a flaw or sign that it once was. Stared long and hard, did the crab walk along the car ...stunned by the job well done.

Granted I would personally change some details around (toss the stereo and swap a steering wheel) but to each their own.

Rich gas, You sir are a what the Internet calls "a Troll" and not a true Porsche fan, most likely lift your nose and don't wave at a fellow vintage porsche 911 (targa) on the road.

Pmax did bring up a good point .... Hacked cars are the next thing
And unfortunately he's right! Nothing makes me more sick than seeing a RWB Car. Especially when it was a beautiful stock car, I cringe I hear (newbies) calling them art and people flocking like sheep to this. ITS A FIBERGLASS KIT WITH TILE GLUE AS GASKETS!!!! Not art The Honda civic crowd grown up

The only pleasure I get when seeing a RWB (Rauh welt) is knowing I will be selling fenders and bumpers to these people wanting to restore their cars back when the FAD wears out for a crazy price tag.

Or another one is "back dates" the wild trend of back dating a s/sc/Carrera especially when they are original runners.... Very sad

This Mexico blue car is not the case, it's an actual 1973 long hood! Not a "backdate" it was very tastefully done properly I my self would love to own it (granted with a few personal touches) jump in it and drive across the usa with the reliable and powerful 3.2 Carrera engine.

Find a car in similar condition (with a reliable engine) at this price
Or try to build one like it, you won't see it for a few years either

Finally yes techweenie is stand up, his word holds strong and true.
As I have also dealt with him in person, guy knows his stuff with out the BS sugar coating.


Pick your battles

[Ronnie's.930]

First you write this -

Originally Posted by Blackbyrd

Rich gas, You sir are a what the Internet calls "a Troll" and not a true Porsche fan, most likely lift your nose and don't wave at a fellow vintage porsche 911 (targa) on the road.

And them follow it with this -

Originally Posted by Blackbyrd

Nothing makes me more sick than seeing a RWB Car. Especially when it was a beautiful stock car, I cringe I hear (newbies) calling them art and people flocking like sheep to this. ITS A FIBERGLASS KIT WITH TILE GLUE AS GASKETS!!!! Not art The Honda civic crowd grown up

The only pleasure I get when seeing a RWB (Rauh welt) is knowing I will be selling fenders and bumpers to these people wanting to restore their cars back when the FAD wears out for a crazy price tag.

Or another one is "back dates" the wild trend of back dating a s/sc/Carrera especially when they are original runners.... Very sad

Looks like the ol' "Pot & Kettle" situation to me.