1974 targa values please? - Page 2

1988TURBOLOOK · 08-19-2016, 04:53 PM

Hello again, thank you all for the positive replies-I'll probably get the car in the next week or so. The seller is installing a new a/c compressor and charging the a/c so it works and installing period correct 1974 H4 headlights. The blue/green seat inserts sure look original to me, they have a great patina and the fading matches perfectly from the seats to the inner door panels. Should the engine shroud be green on a 1974-I believe so but am not positive. Do you guys think this particular car will hold it's value -I worry that the mid 1970's cars are still considered not that desirable but I like the color and the Targa body so I'm buying it cause I like it not so much for speculation on what the classic Porsche market holds in store. Here are more photos-thanks again for all your input!!!

manbridge 74 · 08-19-2016, 04:56 PM

eBay one has been restored, so not really a good comparison. Makes the OPs find look even better.

manbridge 74 · 08-19-2016, 05:01 PM

I thought you said it wasn't an S model... so it's even cooler.

Green shroud was original. Regular 911 had black shroud.

Maybe the fabric was special order (sonderwusch)? You really need a COA on this car!

1988TURBOLOOK · 08-19-2016, 05:25 PM

Hello all, thank you all for your valuable input in this matter, I'll probably get the car in a week or so-it looks like the final $ is 34K because the seller is installing a brand new a/c compressor and charging the a/c system, installing period correct 1974 H4 head lights per my request, and will re do the seat bolsters in the correct black vinyl. The blue-green plaid interior sure looks old-lots of patina-could you get that pattern/color in 1974? Also, the fan shroud is green-is that the correct color for a 1974 plain Targa. I'm not a big fan of the mid 1970's cars but the way this car pops is just fun! The stainless roll bar in contrast with the green paint and black top really looks tasteful but aggressive. Even my girlfriend liked it and she hates green! The VIN is 911411----. Here are more photos-any more input from you nice folks would be much appreciated before I pull the trigger late next week!

1988TURBOLOOK · 08-19-2016, 05:33 PM

Hello again, sorry for the double reply-the girlfriend came home and started talking and I can't talk and type at the same time.

manbridge 74 · 08-19-2016, 05:40 PM

If that dash has a removable speaker cover I believe it is original to the car. And it appears to be crack free.

manbridge 74 · 08-19-2016, 05:51 PM

The targa bar is a nice contrast. MANY people painted these back in the day.

Rick Brooklyn · 08-19-2016, 06:03 PM

Waste of money to have the air con refurbished. It's a targa! If it's hot enough to need air, pull the roof off and roll down the windows. I'm having the air con removed from mine over the winter.

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COLB · COLB's Garage

74s is a great car, and this one is an interesting and rare color -- which generally brings a 10%+ perfect value bump.

I think $34k is a great price for that car, and I doubt there is much chance of you losing money on it, provided you care for it (keep it as original as possible, and don't let it rust).

i guarantee you will do better financially than on any new car you would buy for that money. The 74 cars probably have a price premium over most impact bumper years due to the fact they were the last smog-exempt 911 in California (and yours is the higher performance variant.)

Looks like an awesome car. Hope your seller doesn't get cold feet.

CountD · 08-19-2016, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by COLB

i guarantee you will do better financially than on any new car you would buy for that money. The 74 cars probably have a price premium over most impact bumper years due to the fact they were the last smog-exempt 911 in California (and yours is the higher performance variant.)

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A 1975 was/is the last smog exempt 911 in California. That's why a '75 is very desirable in California.

Nick Triesch · Nick Triesch's Garage

Nice car but if a person looked hard couldn't they find a condition 2 or 3 84 or 85 Carrera for about the same price?

manbridge 74 · 08-19-2016, 06:26 PM

Sure they could but they'd have to remove 300 lbs of nonsense to get it down to nimble 74 weight.

Of course this only matters if weight loss is important to some.

manbridge 74 · 08-19-2016, 06:31 PM

Actually it's closer to 500lbs depending on options.

COLB · COLB's Garage

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Originally Posted by CountD

A 1975 was/is the last smog exempt 911 in California. That's why a '75 is very desirable in California.

My mistake.

But with a '75, you also get the thermal reactor issue, and worse performance across the board. The 74 is still the sweetspot for middies.

Can you backdate the 75 emissions and still be legal in Cali?

Matt Monson · 08-19-2016, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by manbridge 74

Sure they could but they'd have to remove 300 lbs of nonsense to get it down to nimble 74 weight.

Of course this only matters if weight loss is important to some.

Yep. My 74 feels like a totally different car then my 86. I like the 74 better.

Tony V · 08-19-2016, 07:22 PM

I bought my lime green '74 Targa a couple of years ago. It's ac had been completely refurbished and works well. On a long trip it's nice not to have the sun beating down on your head. Wouldn't give up th ac. I was told, today at Werks Reunion, that my car originally came with the plaid seat inserts. Sure wish it still had them. The lime green always gets positive comments and it's hard to lose in a crowded parking lot!
Go for it. My other 2 P-cars go unused as this is my favorite to drive.
Green is the correct color for the fan shroud.

dwelle · 08-19-2016, 09:07 PM

colb, yes to the backdating of emmisions. '75 and older, they don't care.

i bought a car from MA with a '75 title (CA car originally) and a '76 VIN with a 3.2 with no smog stuff (SSI's) in it. CA DMV inspected the car for a VIN and gave me my tags. no questions.

i'm not in a one of the special smog zones, but i don't believe it to be a problem...

Nick Triesch · Nick Triesch's Garage

The 3.2 car is heavier but still faster, quicker, stops better, better handling, galvanized, and more reliable. Not saying the 74 is not cool, just saying the 84 or 85 can be about the same price.

specialtyoneinc · 08-20-2016, 11:04 AM

That car should hold its value due to the rare color combo and originality. If the engine is healthy and all the numbers match, mid $30s is a fair deal.

1988TURBOLOOK · 08-27-2016, 05:47 PM

Hello again all. Question regarding correct engine # in a 1974 Targa "S" VIN 9114112451. The engine in the car serial # begins with 645 which would be a 1975 engine? The 1974 engine should begin with 614? The engine in the car has the green shroud. Can the engine numbers be off a little being it was the sloppy 1970's or is this a cut and dry replaced engine car. Maybe the original owner nuked the original engine in the first year and Porsche replaced it with a 1975 engine or the engine was nuked later in the car's life and the 1975 engine was as close as they could find? What did Porsche do in the 1970's if the original engine nuked in the first year of ownership as the 2.7's were not the best at that time. If the car is very nice but not the original engine-how much does this hurt the value of the car? Please help, I will not know for sure until the COA is ordered? Thank you for your replies.