996TTs..

mulsanne79 · 08-25-2016, 03:50 PM

I am honestly a bit baffled how come the 996TTs are not climbing up in price much? I have 2 in my inventory and they are such a joy to drive and look at. I thought by now people would get over the "headlight dilemma" especially after seeing what the new era of Porsches w/ PDKs and crazy electronic system are all about.

And no, this is not a sale's pitch. Just an enthusiast that sells Porsches for living wondering when will the time come for the air cooled crowd to finally recognize the beauty and the beast in the 996TTs. I seriously love these cars! And that is all my friends. Great rest of the week to you all.

~Ales

Matt Monson · 08-25-2016, 04:07 PM

I guess my question to you would be what do you mean by "not climbing up in price much"? How much are you asking for the cars on your lot? Links to the ads?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-marketplace-discussion/915847-996-tt-prices.html

Most of us would say that they've been climbing quite a bit in recent times. However, many sectors have topped out, at least in the short term. If you are looking to get much more out of them than the prices discussed in that thread, then they will likely sit for a while.

impactbumper · 08-25-2016, 04:28 PM

owning one of those is not for the weak. That is scaring people. They are delight to drive though. I would do one again.

specialtyoneinc · 05:24 PM

They have actually gone up in the past couple of years if you have been following the market. You used to be able to pick up examples in the mid to upper $30s with less than 60k miles. Now those cars are in fetching in the $40s if not more for the right color/optioned examples (X50 etc...). Porsche built a crap load of the 996TT compared to past generations. They will probably never become collectibles (maybe the 05 S) Collectors are after unmolested GT2s and GT3s. The Mezger is a sweet engine and I still consider them a great performance bargain.

Skwerl · 06:45 PM

Headlights and interior are both Porsche lowlights, in my opinion...they do look sweet from behind, though. Like others have said, values on nice ones have bumped up a little in the past couple years, just nothing like what's happened with air-cooleds.

I do have to admit I think I'm starting to develop a nostalgia for them, though. There will always need to be some degree of separation between them and the better-in-every-possible-way 997TT, though, so it's hard to imagine prices climbing much more until the 7TTs do.

Rick Brooklyn · 08-25-2016, 06:52 PM

The have bumped a lot, not a little. The same car that would go for $30k two or three years ago will cost $45k or more now.

In fact even aspirated 996s have been climbing in price a lot. They used to be cars many people wouldn't want to be caught dead in, now some have traded on BAT with a 3 handle.

They might have made many 996TTs (although manual coupes, not so many maybe), but they suffered significant attrition. Many cars were driven in anger and put away wet as soon as a big ticket maintenance became due. Many more have been defaced with cheesy tacky mods or turned into track cars. Clean, unmolested manual coupes are not that ubiquitous really. Special colors (like that ultra-mileage red one with the tan interior that Mulsanne sold a while back, I still remember it it was so gorgeous) are the ones that bring in the real money. Silver on black, it needs to ahve something really special in order to trade rich.

Farrell · 08-25-2016, 08:53 PM

May as well spend 20k more and get a 997TT or 6GT3

Rick Brooklyn · 08-26-2016, 03:58 AM

A 6gt3 in comparable condition to a $50k 996tt would be listed somewhere between $90k and $100k. The low price 6GT3s all have scrotch harnesses and stuff like that.

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Skwerl · 08-26-2016, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick Brooklyn

The have bumped a lot, not a little. The same car that would go for $30k two or three years ago will cost $45k or more now.

I guess I didn't realize how low they had gotten. I thought an unmodified, clean 996TT bottomed out in the high-$30s/low-$40s a few years ago and were maybe $5-10 higher now.

Maybe 20 years from now they'll be looked back at fondly as the charming and eccentric beginning of the water-cooled modern 911s, and the rawest of the bunch, and get an even nicer premium.

mulsanne79 · 08-26-2016, 07:48 AM

I know they have gone up, but not by a big margin. I sold 2 low mile examples (20k) for about $45k couple of years ago. I guess I thought they would somewhat sky rocket especially when the 993 & 964Ts shot up to stratosphere. I know, different beasts but still.. I guess I probably just like them too much. We all have our favorites.

And Rick, yes that 6k mile red on tan was absolutely beautiful. It sat in our shop for about 2 months before the customer picked it up and everyone that walked in drooled over it. I wish I had the money. Would of bought it a hearth beat!

Matt Monson · 08-26-2016, 07:59 AM

If those cars still had 20k mi today they would be $75k cars, or more. Nowadays a decent condition 75k mi car is $45-50k

specialtyoneinc · 08:36 AM

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If those cars still had 20k mi today they would be $75k cars, or more. Nowadays a decent condition 75k mi car is $45-50k

You crazy. You can get a 07/08 997tt coupe 6spd with 20k miles for $75k or less. No one in their right mind would pay even $65k for a standard 996tt coupe 6spd with $20k miles. A friend of mine just bought a super clean unmodded 03 X50 coupe 6spd for $55k with 24k on the clock.

Matt Monson · 08-26-2016, 08:49 AM

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You crazy. You can get a 07/08 997tt coupe 6spd with 20k miles for $75k or less. No one in their right mind would pay even $65k for a standard 996tt coupe 6spd with $20k miles. A friend of mine just bought a super clean unmodded 03 X50 coupe 6spd for $55k with 24k on the clock.

I didn't say I would pay that. And a 997tt isn't a Mezger. That's a big deal to many people. All the guys saying they would buy a 997 don't care about the Mezger. I already spoke with my buy dollars. I bought a Mezger powered Cup Car. I have very little interest in a turbo wasserboxer.

Skwerl · 08-26-2016, 08:54 AM

997.1 Turbos and GTxs are Mezgers, pretty much the same as the 996TT engines.

specialtyoneinc · 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt Monson

I didn't say I would pay that. And a 997tt isn't a Mezger. That's a big deal to many people. All the guys saying they would buy a 997 don't care about the Mezger. I already spoke with my buy dollars. I bought a Mezger powered Cup Car. I have very little interest in a turbo wasserboxer.

Please look up 997tt 2007-2009 engine specs and get back to us...

Here's a $70k example. Pretty much a unicorn when it comes to 996tt's due to the extra low mileage and rare color.

http://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-marketplace/916410-2003-porsche-911-turbo-like-new-condition.html

Skwerl · 10:15 AM

Wow, that's the best 996TT I've seen in a while of casual eBay and forums browsing. I'm not usually into white cars but dang.

Matt Monson · 08-26-2016, 02:35 PM

Sorry, I know that it's the 997.2TT that was the death of the Mezger. Not enough sleep and coffee before posting this morning.

If that white car were actually an interesting color it would be $5-10K more.

Farrell · 08-27-2016, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by specialtyoneinc

You crazy. You can get a 07/08 997tt coupe 6spd with 20k miles for $75k or less. No one in their right mind would pay even $65k for a standard 996tt coupe 6spd with $20k miles. A friend of mine just bought a super clean unmodded 03 X50 coupe 6spd for $55k with 24k on the clock.

haha i couldn't agree more. all the 996TT that are priced high i don't see moving. 55k is the top of the line i see for 6TT. a nice 7TT is already in the 60's.

i wonder the same thing about the 6gt3, why purchase a 6gt3 for 90-100k when you can get a 7gt3?

Macroni · Macroni's Garage

Problem w/ 6TTs; they are DDs that have yet to instill the passion of many other models for the most part they are not seen as either a classic GT2/3/3RS raw Porsche or of limited availability like the CGT. That does not mean they are not the best value Porsche out there because IMO they are.

Rick Brooklyn · 09:25 AM

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haha i couldn't agree more. all the 996TT that are priced high i don't see moving. 55k is the top of the line i see for 6TT. a nice 7TT is already in the 60's.

i wonder the same thing about the 6gt3, why purchase a 6gt3 for 90-100k when you can get a 7gt3?

Believe it or not, some people like a 6tt over a 7tt. Less electronic, less of a gt and more of a sports car. A turbo where porsche got it just right according to a recent review of the 991.2 turbo s.

Also the 90k 6gt3 will be a 1xk mile car, all of them street, pristine and unmolested, a 90k 7gt3 will have scrotch harnesses and stuff like that and will have been used very hard.