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phe 06-26-2003 04:23 AM

Tom,

I purchase mine from a reseller of www.fvd.de, the cost was a little more than what you said 2750€ HT. Think fvd is selling in US, UK , Japan,....

phe

cstreit 06-26-2003 06:15 AM

Phe,

What I was saying is that I couldn't see any assembly lube used on the bearing surfaces in your pictures posted here.

phe 06-26-2003 06:21 AM

Chris you killed me last night, I had really really bad sleep.

There was assembly lube. I do not send every picture I have.

Thanks a lot. I feel better now.

Philippe

cstreit 06-26-2003 07:20 AM

Sorry buddy, I'm just the paranoid type when it comes to motors. Sorry to heap more worries onto your existing pile! :D

phe 06-26-2003 08:05 AM

some practicing for the seats:



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I will drop the rear seats and the plastic box around the gear stick.

Good no?

phe

ChrisBennet 06-26-2003 08:29 AM

While you have the seats out you should put in the eye bolts for your sub strap belts.
-Chris

phe 06-26-2003 08:34 AM

I do not have them yet, we have done a swith for larger belts.

I will receive that in a few days.

phe

phe 06-30-2003 05:12 AM

Here comes the week-end pictures :

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phe

phe 06-30-2003 05:18 AM

how to do the block?

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I didn't imagine that it was so difficult to put the springs in place. I am the lucky boy, the one with the camera !!

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I have also a small dirty video of someone masturbating a valve but due to morale (and technical) reason I cannot post it. sorry :D :D

phe 06-30-2003 05:20 AM

Last serie for today :

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phe 06-30-2003 05:28 AM

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Type961 06-30-2003 08:03 AM

Hi Phe,
Well this engine will be soon in the car !

I have few remarks :
Do you use original valves ? It would have been a good idea to machin them, reducing the angle radius : this helps tork at middle ranges. The ports should also have been cleaned.
Did you also check the springs' strength ?
One more important thing : don't forget to check the chamber volume and piston clearence for each cylinder !

I think it's non-sens to lose some time lighting and equilibrating rods if this basic work haven't been done.

Regards,
Luc

phe 06-30-2003 08:14 AM

Luc(snoopy),

valves: 50%new 50% old but checked (for machining too late).Must stay a road car (about 60.000km/year!)

springs: all new.

ports: agree, it looks dirty (I will drop a call)

clearance: schedulled.

phe

Type961 06-30-2003 08:44 AM

re Phe !

>Must stay a road car (about 60.000km/year!)
This is always my goal to keep an engine reliable.
Machining valve just helps flow at low valve lift and never affect reliablity.

>springs: all new.
Good. Bought all together ?

>ports: agree, it looks dirty
This is not important. Never polish the ports, it's lost time. But the moulding lines should be removed. It should have been done if the valves, seats and guides were done. So keep them like this, 3.4 engines work enough don't they :) ?
And let's consider you will have a good air/fuel mixture thanks to it ;)

ps. Snoopy is already used by another one on this forum :(
Luc.

phe 06-30-2003 08:50 AM

Finished (I am getting closer.....)

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Good work for the day !!!

I know you dont like to do that so (Merci pour l'effort)

phe

Type961 06-30-2003 09:14 AM

:)

Now you *just* have to check for the volume of each combustion chamber. Also don't forget to compare piston heights.
A good trick : if you need to remove material to set the biggest volume you measure to all chambers, remove it around the spark plug.
This helps combustion and reduce detonation risk.

Have fun ;)
Luc.

beepbeep 06-30-2003 03:24 PM

Nice pictures! I just love to watch rebuild in progress.

I have one idea: if you are going to assemble the heads with plugs already mounted, why not use the oportunity when you can see the plugs "from inside" and index them, to get every last horsepower drop? :)

ChrisBennet 06-30-2003 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by beepbeep
Nice pictures! I just love to watch rebuild in progress.

I have one idea: if you are going to assemble the heads with plugs already mounted, why not use the oportunity when you can see the plugs "from inside" and index them, to get every last horsepower drop? :)

I don't think indexing will make any difference but if it did, do the threads for every spark plug start in the same place i.e. are the threads "timed" the same?
-Chris

Type961 06-30-2003 11:31 PM

Indexing the plug doesn't matter if you don't have a per-cylinder compensation (that means advanced sequantial EFI with one temp sensor per head). It's really more important to calibrate injectors (or fuel distributor) and be sure to get the same compression ratio for each cylinder.

Luc

phe 07-01-2003 04:45 AM

look nice !

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