Pilot "Whatever" tires on my HP2 Run out of front before running out of back!

[roger albert]

+1

Especially on very mildly powered bikes like Ss (11 or 12).

[Dr. Curve]

Perhaps Yokohama all-weather tires would be better for ME, especially on such a mildly powered bike like the HP2. Their "C" rated universal tread tires only cost 83. dollars for the set and they pay the shipping. Thoughts?

[dee jones]

Originally Posted by Dr. Curve

Perhaps Yokohama all-weather tires would be better for ME, especially on such a mildly powered bike like the HP2. Their "C" rated universal tread tires only cost 83. dollars for the set and they pay the shipping. Thoughts?

Don't let a deal like that slip by.

[JimMoore]

Originally Posted by Dr. Curve

Perhaps Yokohama all-weather tires would be better for ME, especially on such a mildly powered bike like the HP2. Their "C" rated universal tread tires only cost 83. dollars for the set and they pay the shipping. Thoughts?

Don't get cranky. We're just trying to help. BT-002RS FTW!

[Dr. Curve]

And advice that is well taken Jim. I always appriciate all comments. Several have mentioned the new Bridgestone tires. Perhaps in time.......for now Metzlers........and I have already taken collective advise and canceled the Racetec order. Thanks one and all for the suggestions. The Pilots do seem to work in a straight line however so all is not lost.

[PFFOG]

Originally Posted by roger albert

If they got greasy afater 3 or 4 laps, then the pressure wasn't just right.
The warmers play a large role in initial temp, but very little several laps in.
Warmers vs no warmers had just been masking a poor setup, and started again
after you dropped the temp.

Well a general question then, should you run lower initial pressures with warmers??

I thought cold temp was cold temp, and if after a few laps there truly is no real temp difference, then pressures should be comparable, so what is the set-up difference?

[Jeff Williams]

Jim,
No, I don't think my confidence is misplaced, but i think my confidence can be expanded . Over the years I've used multiple sets of pp's and ct2 and pilot race tires but they would slide on me and they were ok in the wet,(which doesn't happen often), and just putting around. They were just a little better that the M1's. The BT002RS is something i will check out, thanks. The Diablo's only lasted 1200 miles. they would get to hot and cycle to hardness like you have said. With the super corsas they didn't slide and lasted twice as long. They heat up in about 2-3 miles. The bottom line is for me and others where i ride these tires work for us, but they may not work for others in other areas. But hey i just try'um and ride'um.
Thanks jim, as always your input is Appreciated .

Roger,
imo, you may be mistaked with these tires. Have you tried them?
you maybe suprised,

sergio,
I've been riding supercorsa for years so the need is not 'now', it started with the cf wheels. Besides my friend you've seen me ride, i have fun in the corners and that about it, just trying to keep up with ivan, wheelieboy, and tuna.
As my friend and former pelican board member acidburn said, ' On the track its fun but their is way to much testerone for me.'

motodoc,
agreed, and if i could find a street tire,(rosso is the next hopeful), that did the supercorsa did for my seat of the pants testing i would use them without a second thought. BTW, i agree with you about out riding street tires being unbelieveable, but after the dozens of sets of tires I've tired in the last for 4 years,(about 8 sets a year) its what felt good and didn't scare me going into or out of corners,(and that with adjusted suspension). As budda said, don't follow my path choose your own path.
jeff

[Wheelie boy]

I just want to say after selling tires for 5 years I can honestly say not all tires are created equally. I've been running the super corsa & the super corsa pro's on the street for about 7 years. All I know is I can leave my drive way and turn down the street with my knee on the ground and not slide at all with the pirelli's. Try that with other brands(dunlop especially) & you'll have a very different outcome. As for riding hard on the street "Sergio you hyp-ocrite " Ya we ride hard but crash safely. The most important thing about tire choice is weather you have confidence in them or not. Ride safe & enjoy the ride. p.s. "It's less than 5 minutes by helicopter to the nearest hospital, then a 30 minute ambulance ride to a good hospital."

[throttlemeister]

Curve, I think you made the right choice in cancelling the Racetech tires. These things need to be HOT to work, but they do work very well when they are.

I also mirror your experience with the Pilot Powers. Everybody raves them, but I find them to be pretty sucky. They are unpredictable and not all that grippy. And in the wet, they give no notice at all when they go. Hell, their Road 2 tires are more predictable.

The M3's are a prime example of how a tire should behave imo. They have endless grip, confidence inspiring and when you get to the limits they warn ahead of time that you need to take it easier. They're also very good in the wet.

[bradzdotcom]

tires! tires! tires!

if we were all riding the same 14-turn racetrack with the same bikes, we'd be discussing soft vs. hard....and that's about it.

even if you take the different bikes out of the equation, you have different size riders with different styles, different set-ups, different skill sets.

and, the one part that everyone seems to overlook: different road surfaces.
just like motocross tracks vary across the globe because of different local dirt, all the asphalt and concrete roads also share those same differences.

asphalt is made by taking LOCAL big rocks, making them little rocks, add in glue and coloring, heat to a boil, pour and decorate with painted lines.

concrete: same LOCAL big rock/little rock, plus sand and "portland" to hold it all together (no boiling required, bakes to a finish all on it's own).

since it's all predicated on local geology/type of rock, the roads vary drastically. and don't have to be very far from each other to be different.
here in socal we have montezuma valley, a cheese-grader of a road, where local low-desert rock was used for the pavemet. you can almost see a whisp of black smoke as the tires shred.

less than half an hour away is mesa verde road, smooth as a pool table, with the surrounding aggregate similar to river rock. it'd probably take 500 miles just to rub the mold hairs off the tire.

and dont' even consider weather: las vegas roads are like ice all year long. hawaiian roads are dust-free. most everywhere else, it depends a lot on when it rained last...and for how long.

when i raced motocross, you'd never consider that the tire you used at hard-packed, clay-based carlsbad ca would work in florida sand. the same is true of street bike tires, but to a lesser degree.

i'm not trying to discourage the discussion, (some really good feedback in here) but rather point out that there's a whole lot of variables involved.

you guys aren't really expecting a unanimous conclusion anyway....right?

(aw crap, just realized i forgot all about tire pressures and temperatures).

[throttlemeister]

Don't worry, a certain B. B. has very entertaining ideas about those.