Air Temperature Sensor - Improving Engine Performance?

[OwenM]

Originally Posted by boxercup

Greetings,

Let's get back on topic!

Resistance Tuning!

More correctly “air temperature input manipulation”, using resistors or anything else.

[EenyBear]

I'm sure people have similarly made note of your ongoing critiques of Robert's product

Whoa! Actually, I've never been critical of his products. Clearly they work and have satisfied many customers.

I have, once or twice, compared my subjective experience with a competing product with the subjective experiences of other people using Robert's product. I did this in good faith after watching other members do the same.

Also, I have spoken with Mr. Foster myself and he provided me with excellent advice for an exhaust project - so I am in complete agreement with your general assessment of his contributions. Also the fact that it did not involve pre- or post- sale service - just plain old good advice - impressed me quite a bit.

I shall try to appreciate the quirks of the senior members and go back to lurking.

[Bob Hancock]

Originally Posted by EenyBear

I shall try to appreciate the quirks of the senior members and......snip.

Geez. I wish more people felt this way.

[roger albert]

Hi eeny,

I hope you stay around for more than lurking. I did not mean to say you critiqued Robert's products, but only that you seem tired of the more marketing-oriented end of his input, and that others are equally tired of the critique thereof.

Always glad to have input on the board.

> I shall try to appreciate the quirks of the senior members

It's useful here with us crotchety types. Just pretend you're in a nursing home, or on the Formula-40 grid.

best
roger

[boxercup]

Stay on topic!

Ok Now...!

Now the topic has been modified by Owen to “air temperature input manipulation”!

Go for it!

[OwenM]

Why do you care if this thread stays on topic Robert, you don’t seem to care about any other thread.

[roger albert]

I'm sending out a case of anti-panty-bunch spray this xmas. 10 for domestic consumption, and at least one each for north of the border, and one WAY WAY WAY south. heh-heh.

[JonyRR]

Hey Rog

Right about now you really need to remind yourself why you moderate...and then smash your thumb with a hammer to feel better

[roger albert]

I slammed one finger in a drawer today, and ripped a calf muscle yesterday (thus so much on the keyboard, and missing a couple trackdays this weekend - grrrrr) Is that enough?

[MaineRoads]

Originally Posted by roger albert

I slammed one finger in a drawer today, and ripped a calf muscle yesterday (thus so much on the keyboard, and missing a couple trackdays this weekend - grrrrr) Is that enough?

Did you rip it running? I did that a few months ago........took a while to heal up.

[roger albert]

Nothing quite so pinpoint. It had been tight for a week or so. Then on the starting line of one of the SV races last weekend, a guy hit me a second or two into the race and put his footpeg into my calf. Was really sore, but good until yesterday. Then, just backing a bike down a ramp, it tore. The down a ramp backwards was just too much hyperextension. Good times.

[boxercup]

Originally Posted by OwenM

Why do you care if this thread stays on topic Robert, you don’t seem to care about any other thread.

Greetings Owen,

It is interesting to me as a tuner.

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Andrew, Ben and yourself are experimenting and that is good! I believe that you may have stopped though.

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Any progress Ben>?

How about Ben/Boy/Peter/Ole Biker/????, Hey Ben you have espoused that this Mod works.

We see that you are asking questions related to it on another board. Good Work!

Let us know your findings.

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Oh, BTW - Ben have you tried this - Do you like it?

[jduke]

I'm with Robert. A lot of guys spent a lot of time brain storming this topic. I'd like to see if anyone has had any success. While I personally don't have the knowledge or desire to invent my own resistor tuning device, I would like to know if this line of tuning works.

[boxercup]

Originally Posted by roger albert

Nothing quite so pinpoint. It had been tight for a week or so. Then on the starting line of one of the SV races last weekend, a guy hit me a second or two into the race and put his footpeg into my calf. Was really sore, but good until yesterday. Then, just backing a bike down a ramp, it tore. The down a ramp backwards was just too much hyperextension. Good times.

Although off topic...

Sorry to hear Roger - That is painful for sure!

Unless it is a stage 3 tear (Total Separation)

Rx.

LROM

Alternate - Hot & Moist and Ice compresses (15 Minutes each) 5 X a Day

Be well our moderator!

---The inmates of the PPBB including the HP-2 Sport Section!

[JonyRR]

I'd say if the l-users whining about the FRK spent 1/2 as much time actually tuning as verbally blovinating they'd be done and have a fast scoot by now.

I would consider an FRK, or actually an RBIII but I have my wideband PCIII sorted out to my satisfaction.

some people just like to complain.
some people pretend to have multiple personalities while actually suffering from dementia
some people are just penis-craniums

[AndrewA]

I got my pigtail connectors today, and they fit. Progress!

I hope to pickup a GS-911 late this week.

[Merrimac]

As the originator of this thread I appreciate AndrewA getting us back on topic. I look forward to hearing about the results he creates with his testing.

WAY TO GO ANDREWA!

[boxercup]

Originally Posted by Merrimac

As the originator of this thread I appreciate AndrewA getting us back on topic. I look forward to hearing about the results he creates with his testing.

WAY TO GO ANDREWA!

Yes! For sure!

Greetings,

This is a good thing!

Go for it Andrew.

[AndrewA]

I was able to take a couple of minutes today to put my IAT spoofer together today.





Here's the 10k pot, and 10k fixed resistor soldered together with the Bosch pigtails.




Installed in the mini hobby box.




Result.





The entire assembly took about 1/2 hour to put together, and allows adjustment of resistance from 9.67k ohms to 19.67k ohms just by turning to knob. Simple.


Ill be measuring the IAT "temperature" on a friends bike that has a similar spoofer installed. From numerous accounts on the web, I'm guessing that the spoofed temperature will be in the -25C range. We will see...

Once I get a baseline temperature to aim for, all I'll have to do is turn the knob on my device and watch the temperature fall via the GS-911 and a notebook.

Hopefully the 9.67k ohms to 19.67k ohms range of my spoofer will be enough. If not, Ill just solder in additional 10k hm resistors to the circuit till the temp via the GS-911 hits the target range.

[lht]

Excellant, you are heading in the right direction. Just watch out for the plecebo affect. (G)