Which 911 to sell (1st world problem)

[1990C4S]

I am in a similar situation. I drive my newer car (daily) and the '89 cab and the 996 are in storage.

If you really need the money I would sell the older car. The 915 transmission isn't for me.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by 1990C4S

I am in a similar situation. I drive my newer car (daily) and the '89 cab and the 996 are in storage.

If you really need the money I would sell the older car. The 915 transmission isn't for me.

The Rennshift absolutely transforms the 915. Worth every penny.

[DonDavis]

Certainly a tough call.

Reading the OP, for the reasons he laid out for us, I say sell the ‘84.

We can debate this ad nauseam, and my .02 says spending the vast majority of time driving normally on road trips, quick jaunts around town, car gatherings, outings with a date, etc, the 993 is more suited.

The ‘84 is more gritty, I get that. And I love it, but it could get tiresome to some degree.

[KNS]

Originally Posted by Geronimo

i'll take that 84 for 28K immediately, I think you are GREATLY under estimating the value of your cars... by like 10K easily.

I don’t really know what their current values are, I might head over to the Market Place forum and throw up some pictures.

I just drove both this morning back-to-back (the ‘84 actually has 110,000 miles). Man, tough decsion. The 993 is so much nicer to drive but the 3.2 has a simplicity and old world charm that is gone in cars today (looks better with the front fenders, too).

I think as these cars get older you just see less and less of them on the road. Will the SCs and 3.2s be heading down that path? If I keep the 3.2 but squirrel it away then what’s the point? How ‘bout all the guys who decided to hang on to their 356s as their only Porsche, when do you ever see those anymore?

I appreciate all the comments and feedback but you guys seem split (which is what I was afraid of). Still, it’s very helpful. I’m leaning towards keeping the 993 (I just spent $1000 on new tires and Porsche brake pads which doesn’t help emotionally). In two more years I can put it on my State Farm classic insurance which will help bring that cost down.

[KNS]

Still - I could use the money and if I got $45K or more for the 993...

Doensn’t mean I’ll be Porscheless.

[Deschodt]

I'd sell the 993. It has potential to cost you more. 90s electronics issues, more lights on the dash that might come on, the dreaded secondary air port passages, valve guides... The Carrera is likely to require less work over time because it's simpler. Just an opinion (but I've owned both). The 993 is probably the prettiest 911 ever made this side of a 1964 car but to me, it's neither modern nor classic, I'd cash it out before the upcoming recesession ;-) ... That's assuming you have a beater for work though, otherwise the 993 is less tiring overall (and with better AC when it's not blowing relays)

[speeder]

Originally Posted by Geronimo

i'll take that 84 for 28K immediately, I think you are GREATLY under estimating the value of your cars... by like 10K easily.

Ahhh..., no he is not. Here is his exact car, (year/model/color), but w lower miles in better condition, original paint and records. It's @ $27k w 2 hours left on BAT. That site gets the highest prices on earth of any known venue for selling ordinary cars like this. It will go higher but I predict very low 30s, reserve met or not is irrelevant, that is the market.

If you think that the OP's car is worth $38k, put your $$ where your mouth is and run over and buy this car, 2 hours to go:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1984-porsche-911-carrera-22/

[fintstone]

I am in the same boat. I have two very nice cars (almost too perfect to drive). I do only drive them locally for pleasure...but I work almost all the time and they are rarely driven (only in nice weather where parking safe). I love them and could just stand and look at them...but, I would likely have much more seat time in a more modern one that i would consider a daily driver (daily driver is a Cayenne Turbo). On the other hand, the ones I rarely drive ('74 and '89) need little maintenance and cost almost nothing in insurance/taxes...and keep going up in value (apparently). I hope to have more time for them when i retire. I have two kids and could leave one for each. Both like them...although neither have shown a lot of interest in actually driving them. I know that I would regret selling either...so I just pretend they are an investment/artwork.

[1990C4S]

Originally Posted by Deschodt

I'd sell the 993. It has potential to cost you more. .. The Carrera is likely to require less work over time because it's simpler.

I can't argue with this advice...

[fintstone]

Originally Posted by speeder

Ahhh..., no he is not. Here is his exact car, (year/model/color), but w lower miles in better condition, original paint and records. It's @ $27k w 2 hours left on BAT. That site gets the highest prices on earth of any known venue for selling ordinary cars like this. It will go higher but I predict very low 30s, reserve met or not is irrelevant, that is the market.

If you think that the OP's car is worth $38k, put your $$ where your mouth is and run over and but this car, 2 hours to go:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1984-porsche-911-carrera-22/

I would agree. I think both my cars are in much better shape and much more collectable...and I would be surprised to get $38K for either. $28K seems a lot more accurate. That said...there is a sucker born every minute. You never know. It costs little to advertise.

[speeder]

Prices do vary quite a bit depending on exact model/miles/color but since we're talking about very specific cars in the OP, my comp is as close as he'll ever get.

[Deschodt]

Originally Posted by fintstone

I am in the same boat. I have two very nice cars (almost too perfect to drive). I do only drive them locally for pleasure...but I work almost all the time and they are rarely driven (only in nice weather where parking safe). I love them and could just stand and look at them...but, I would likely have much more seat time in a more modern one that i would consider a daily driver (daily driver is a Cayenne Turbo).

I'm there too... 72 911, 74 Alfa GTV... They've suffered from "increased value syndrome" where they've become more valuable than my comfort level allows. Recently did some math on Quicken relative to the "automotive" section of my expenses, maintenance, insurance, space taken vs and how many times I actually drive them, as opposed to just ogle them in my garage with a smug smile...

I've finally decided to sell them both... Crazy right ? It's just that at this point I feel they own me, rather than me owning them. Sure they go up in value, but the reality is if you deduct *all* expenses and opportunity cost (what you could do with that $ instead)and see how often you drive them, it's a break even situation at best and just no longer works out for ME... I also have a leased electric beater, I'm gonna let them all go and have just one classic, one modern. Basta. No more car-tetris in my driveway, simpler....

I'll have one more dig at the 993 on my way out (I had one, LOVED its looks), I found it too conflicted. Inside it was like an SC, outside it was modern, driving wise it felt too GT... but damn it was pretty. Keep your 84, they are becoming second only to the long hoods in collectibility, as you say you don't see them as much - they look so small nowadays in traffic... Worst case 993 $ would buy you a nice Cayman S ;-)

[KNS]

As stated, the 993 is more expensive to own (tires, for example, are quite a bit more) and while I don’t have any electrical issues, it is more complex, especially the CCU for the heat/AC. The ‘84 is refreshingly simple.

[VincentVega]

I've wanted a silver 993 since I first saw one. Tough decision.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by speeder

Ahhh..., no he is not. Here is his exact car, (year/model/color), but w lower miles in better condition, original paint and records. It's @ $27k w 2 hours left on BAT. That site gets the highest prices on earth of any known venue for selling ordinary cars like this. It will go higher but I predict very low 30s, reserve met or not is irrelevant, that is the market.

If you think that the OP's car is worth $38k, put your $$ where your mouth is and run over and buy this car, 2 hours to go:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1984-porsche-911-carrera-22/

As is typically the case, this one went up quite a bit in the last moments to $35k. No such thing as a cheap driver 911 anymore.

[Geronimo]

Like I said, even with the prices falling (as they do at summers end) they are still pretty strong. I think selling both in spring would net your best gains.

Unless you have an emotional attachment to them. I think in the spring you could bring in close to 90K Maybe pick up a nice F355 and watch it climb.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Special color cars like that 84 have been commanding better than average money all year long. Some 10 years ago Excellence predicted this exact phenomenon. Easy to see why. If that 84 had been guards red or white or black, it probably would have topped out at $30K or so.

[Craig T]

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6

Special color cars like that 84 have been commanding better than average money all year long. Some 10 years ago Excellence predicted this exact phenomenon. Easy to see why. If that 84 had been guards red or white or black, it probably would have topped out at $30K or so.

Colors are coming back into style. For over a decade the entire car lot at the local Porsche dealership (Rusnak Westlake Village) was silver, black, and white (in that order). I went by there yesterday and there were several red, burgundy, chalk gray (very trendy), orange, and Miami blue. I'm seeing more 991's in those colors on the road too.

[porsche4life]

If you want to do a trial separation, you can leave one with me for a few days.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by porsche4life

If you want to do a trial separation, you can leave one with me for a few days.

What a generous offer!