Another azzhold neighbor thread, what would you do?

[look 171]

Originally Posted by URY914

Call the cops.

Yo, that be green color?

[Bugsinrugs]

Originally Posted by look 171

Water and power and sewer are all on the same bill. City of LA does the raping to all citizens.

If they are renters then the landlord probably pays the garbage. I’d start putting some of my garbage in their bins after they are emptied. Maybe that would make them at least gather them up sooner.

[Kraftwerk]

Its not even about the details of the problem, trash trash cans etc. There is a nice thread here on OT that talks about mixing concrete, put some wet concrete in their empty cans so when they go to move it back to their house it is very heavy , or fill it with manure (!) but at the same time they will win if you stoop to their level. An they might just leave them there. Those TYPE of people ! Damn, they must do so many things wrong, if they do this wrong and don't see it or don't care and just do it on purpose. These type of neighbors live in my building too, in NYC..I could give you a long list of things they do which is similarly maddening. It's passive-aggressive and anything we see as normal behavior behavior can be corrupted by this crap. We used to call them :"Capitalists of Space" since they leave their personal belongings all over the public space : in hallways, the entrance way etc. The landlord has even taken them to court about it. Honestly, I feel bad for the LL sometimes. They leave half eaten sandwiches and coffee cups around for chrissakes! Only thing that makes me feel better is I can say: "Glad I am not you!" But not to their faces.... Yet.

[stomachmonkey]

Originally Posted by Bugsinrugs

If they are renters then the landlord probably pays the garbage. I’d start putting some of my garbage in their bins after they are emptied. Maybe that would make them at least gather them up sooner.

Right, the point I was trying to get to.

Do they know it does not cost them anything?

They may have come from a a place where it has always cost them and they think they are getting over.

Next time I saw them I'd simply tell them "you know, if you are worried about the cost don't, leaving it front of your house won't cost you a penny."

[fanaudical]

If a rental, do you know the landlord? Maybe a word to him/her?

[look 171]

Owner doesn't pay anything. Its all on them. Sewer and trash is on the same bill. I own the house upstream, right next to them and that's rented to a very nice single mom with her small kid. They pay for everything. This is a house, so there's no other tenant but them. There are only three renters on our block and everyone is pretty decent folks that take care of their properties. Let me add, they have a leave blower. Take a wild guess where the leaves go when they start using that damn thing? I don't say anything because that doesn't happen often, once a month, so I let the wind take care of it or my gardener who blows and clean up after himself. Why do selfish people suck. Between those two, once should know better you would think?

[sugarwood]

Again, when you've confronted them, did you ask WHY they are doing it?
What do they say???

[unclebilly]

Why not get a couple tubes of silicon and glue them shut after they have been emptied.

In a day or so, they will discover that they can’t be opened.

If they get new cans and park them at your place, do it again.

[unclebilly]

Or better yet, hide them when the garbage truck comes and then put them back afterwards. Let them discover that their cans aren’t getting emptied and ***** to the sanitation department... I’m sure it will come out that they are putting the cans in front of somebody else’s place and maybe this is the reason...

[look 171]

Originally Posted by fanaudical

If a rental, do you know the landlord? Maybe a word to him/her?

Landlord is a piece or work. A year ago, he allow the building of a staircases leading to an outdoor shower on my side of the property, about 5' onto my side. I informed him about it, and his answer is, "How do you know is on your side? Even if it is, you are not using that spot anyway, so why's it that a big deal?" Surveying is being done next Tuesday. Rent is high, 4300 bucks on that damn house, so the owner kisses his ass. Its hillside with no real boundaries between houses but a couple of markers on the sidewalk.

[stomachmonkey]

Originally Posted by look 171

Owner doesn't pay anything. Its all on them. Sewer and trash is on the same bill. I own the house upstream, right next to them and that's rented to a very nice single mom with her small kid. They pay for everything. This is a house, so there's no other tenant but them. There are only three renters on our block and everyone is pretty decent folks that take care of their properties. Let me add, they have a leave blower. Take a wild guess where the leaves go when they start using that damn thing? I don't say anything because that doesn't happen often, once a month, so I let the wind take care of it or my gardener who blows and clean up after himself. Why do selfish people suck. Between those two, once should know better you would think?

Selfish people suck because you let them.

They blow their leaves onto your property and don't say or do anything about it?

And you wonder why they continue to put their pails in front of your house?

Not trying to be a dick here but you are enabling their bad behavior.

[dad911]

After a year? I'd flip out and throw them in their front yard.

[Norm K]

If you have the space, move all the cans into your garage (post pick-up, of course).

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[Baz]

The best answer was upstream in the thread.

Remove the garbage cans (preferably when they are empty).

As in...put them in a truck (your truck - any truck) and haul them away.

No cans = problem solved.

If they get new cans and do it again - take those cans away.

No cans = problem solved.

[908/930]

Can you relocate there cans to the far side of there lot and make it more of a pain for them to pick up?

I think it is hard to win this one, some people are just messed up and it might get way out of hand quickly, I like the idea of gluing the lid shut but it will probably come back at you. Can always just fill with water and the city won't pick it up, just drill a small hole so it is empty later.

Start taking soil samples and tell them there is high levels of Radon gas or lead and hopefully they will move.

When I was much younger my next door neighbour was a similar pain, he was eventually fired from the post office, not easy to do up here, but you could not win a war against someone like that. Hey what is your neighbour name maybe he moved out there?

[Hockey fan]

We had a similar situation. I called the garbage company and said I had somehow ended up with extra cans and could they please remove them. Next day my neighbor came over and asked if I knew what happened to his cans. "Sorry, didn't notice anything." The next couple of weeks the cans were at their place and then once again in front of our place. Called the garbage company again and had them picked up. After that they always put them at their place.

The thing that stinks is if you're a normal, considerate person you can never understand why people act like this. Somehow you end up feeling like the bad guy.

Had another neighbor that would park in front of our house in order to leave the spot in front of their house free.

Moved to the country 2 years ago and don't miss those city quirks.

[WolfeMacleod]

Originally Posted by Norm K

Or twenty seven 8x10 color glossy photographs with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was to be used as evidence against them.

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Don't forget to take pictures of the approach, the getaway, the northwest corner, the southwest corner and that's not to mention the aerial photography.

[Jeff Hail]

Originally Posted by Baz

The best answer was upstream in the thread.

Remove the garbage cans (preferably when they are empty).

As in...put them in a truck (your truck - any truck) and haul them away.

No cans = problem solved.

If they get new cans and do it again - take those cans away.

No cans = problem solved.

I've done this at my old house twice. Agree problem solved and a very clear message. Just make sure they are not home when you do it.

LA is Waste Management. They allow one can swap for each of the three in a one year period for damaged, worn or bins that have gone awol . A few times in a year the end user will pay. Good place to start.

The other thing is call every pizza delivery place in a 5 mile radius from a caller ID blocked phone. Order about 30 extra large pizzas delivered at the same time to your neighbor, say you will pay cash. After you make the last call go to the store and do a lot of grocery shopping. Keep the receipt, you may need it later.

[Heel n Toe]

Remove the garbage cans (preferably when they are empty).

As in...put them in a truck (your truck - any truck) and haul them away.

No cans = problem solved.

If they get new cans and do it again - take those cans away.

If they're rollcarts like this...

...they're probably city or county property.

You might wanna check before you go hauling them off somewhere... you could be inviting a bigger problem.


A simpler solution was mentioned earlier in the thread IIRC; next time they roll their carts out in front of your property, go out and roll them to the far edge of their lot so they'll have a longer trip to get them after pick up.

Or maybe roll them even further up the street and put them on the other side of the street. Here's where we need a drawing... or a zoomed in Google Earth image of your street to offer suggestions.

Do that for the next 3-4 pick ups. If that doesn't do the job, the brain trust can reconvene for reconsideration.

[Steve Carlton]

Originally Posted by look 171

Yo, that be green color?

I think calling the cops is the right answer. If they're within their legal rights to do this, you're just escalating this, which can backfire on you. If they're within their legal rights, then you can put your cans in front of their house. If the cops agree it's uncool, I have to believe they would willing to have an officer knock on their door and talk to them. That might be the most effective thing.