burried my neighbors dog the other day.

[T77911S]

so I saw them digging a hole in their back yard the other day. I said to my wife one of their animals must have died.
sure enough, frank (we call him frank because he looks like the dog on men in black) was killed by the german shepherd they had rescued.
the shepherd got ahold of the dog once before and almost killed it so they would lock the little dog in a bedroom. well the shepherd broke in and killed the dog on the daughters bed.

the mother came over crying and told us what happened and asked if I would bury "the dog" out in the field. (I have a tractor). so I go over there to put the dog in the FEL and its the shepherd. (???) so after I bury it I ask my wife, did they shoot the shepherd, she said yes, (which I saw lots of blood and brains on the tarp anyway).
I asked why, the dog did not have any issues with any of the cats or other dogs.
she told me Wesley, the ex-husband and serious redneck came over and shot the dog.
I did notice there were lots of people there to bury frank but only the mother came out with me to bury the shepherd.

[sammyg2]

That story pisses me off, they deserved to get buried more than the dogs.
Thank you for reminding me how lucky I am not to have A-holes for neighbors.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by sammyg2

That story pisses me off, they deserved to get buried more than the dogs.
Thank you for reminding me how lucky I am not to have A-holes for neighbors.

Locally, when a bear continually stalks humans they usually kill it. Sometimes relocation is tried but if the bear works his way back....

Maybe that's a suitable analogy, maybe not, but some animals are no good. Same with humans, of course. My point is that if there was an unstable animal living that close to me, I wouldn't be sad if it was gone by whatever means. Killing is low on the list, but it's still an option.

The so called redneck, by description, was the problem. What did you mean by "they?"

[stomachmonkey]

Not sure I approve of the final solution but the Shepard was unpredictable.

Broke into the bedroom to get to Frank?

That exhibits an elevated prey drive.

I wouldn't want that dog around either.

[Jeff Higgins]

That is a good analogy, Zeke. There are good and bad among all of us, animals included. Sometimes we have a hard time seeing animals as having distinct personalities and we only see the traits of their particular species or breed. Even within those, just like with people, there are good ones and bad ones. Not many people will recognize or come to terms with a pet that, for whatever reason, is a "bad" one, or a thug among their kind. It happens. It's just awfully hard to deal with.

[pwd72s]

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins

That is a good analogy, Zeke. There are good and bad among all of us, animals included. Sometimes we have a hard time seeing animals as having distinct personalities and we only see the traits of their particular species or breed. Even within those, just like with people, there are good ones and bad ones. Not many people will recognize or come to terms with a pet that, for whatever reason, is a "bad" one, or a thug among their kind. It happens. It's just awfully hard to deal with.

What? Ted Bundy didn't deserve the death penalty? On the other hand, it's understandable why some prefer the company of a pet over the company of some humans.

[john70t]

Originally Posted by T77911S

the shepherd got ahold of the dog once before and almost killed it so they would lock the little dog in a bedroom. well the shepherd broke in and killed the dog on the daughters bed. .

The first time would have been the proper time to do some intensive training to wake the GSD out of his drives.

The owners should have been on his butt 24/7 for as long as it took to make themselves boss and alpha dog.
Both owners need to be in sync or it doesn't work.
If not, they should have put it down there.

The human is the only one who get to decide what the GSD's place is in the pecking order and what he gets to destroy.
Even monster dogs have the ability to be subservient to smaller ones.
It is inherent in all of them. (or most)

The GSD was making himself more alpha in the pack by removing his competition.
That could have been their daughter.

[stomachmonkey]

Originally Posted by john70t

The first time would have been the proper time to do some intensive training to wake the GSD out of his drives.

The owners should have been on his butt 24/7 for as long as it took to make themselves boss and alpha dog.
Both owners need to be in sync or it doesn't work.
If not, they should have put it down there.

The human is the only one who get to decide what the GSD's place is in the pecking order and what he gets to destroy.
Even monster dogs have the ability to be subservient to smaller ones.
It is inherent in all of them. (or most)

The GSD was making himself more alpha in the pack by removing his competition.
That could have been their daughter.

Agreed but dogs with high prey drive like that, the 24/7 never ends. The minute you let up they start reverting.

Friend of mine had a GSD rescue. Odd dog, some days it liked me, other days I would not set foot in the house. We eventually realized there was one specific jacket I owned that set the dog off.

The family also had a Keeshond which was there first. GSD and Keeshond got along fine for 3-4 years when friend comes home one day to find blood everywhere and the Keeshond dead.

And I'm not ragging on GSD's, I happen to like them a lot.

Once had a Miniature Schnauzer that took no poo from anyone or anything.

That little 25 lb dog was a far more serious threat to life and limb than my 250 lb Mastiff.

The only thing that dog was afraid of was the cat, rightly so.

[mepstein]

Our German shepard would never attack anyone but god help the person or dog who tried to mess with our family. One day a contractor jumped out of his pickup and started walking to me and cursing at me. My dog let out the nastiest growl i've ever heard from a dog and he hightailed it back in the truck. Contractor only communicated by cell after that day. She was fine around other dogs, even friendly, just don't mess with her flock.

She used to sleep in my daughters room at the foot of her bed. Guarded her for 13 years.

[sammyg2]

They took in a stray that attacked their dog. Red flag.
They did not correct the sitch, and their little doggy got kilt. that's on them.
So instead of fessing up they blamed the stray and kilt him. Strike three.

they should have tried to correct the behavior, instead of locking the little doggy in a room. Deliverance ****.
Or they could have taken that stray to the pound, maybe it would have found a home with a responsible owner or no other pets and it could have been all rainbows and unicorn farts.

Instead they put a bullet in it's head.
In my book that makes them Michael Vick.

[scottmandue]

Originally Posted by sammyg2

That story pisses me off, they deserved to get buried more than the dogs.
Thank you for reminding me how lucky I am not to have A-holes for neighbors.

Well, I'm local... I could move in next to you!


My redneck neighbor has a pit bull, super sweet, disciplined, well behaved dog...

That is terrified of our cat...

Fear the Lily!



She is evil!!!

[sammyg2]

Dude. that cat looks like it has a chip on both shoulders.

[sammyg2]

BTW I had a German Shepard when I was a kid, that dog loved me and never let me out of her sight.
I kinda liked having her around too. I never saw her snarl or growl or bark mean-like to anyone, but she did get between me and them and "herd" other people away from me. Even my parents. if they got too close to me she'd trip them up.

[Baz]

Originally Posted by sammyg2

They took in a stray that attacked their dog. Red flag.
They did not correct the sitch, and their little doggy got kilt. that's on them.
So instead of fessing up they blamed the stray and kilt him. Strike three.

they should have tried to correct the behavior, instead of locking the little doggy in a room. Deliverance ****.
Or they could have taken that stray to the pound, maybe it would have found a home with a responsible owner or no other pets and it could have been all rainbows and unicorn farts.

Instead they put a bullet in it's head.
In my book that makes them Michael Vick.

On board with what Sammy said 100%.

This was a human problem...not a dog problem.

No such thing as problems...just opportunities.

Sorry the OP had to go through this but thank you for doing what you could.

[Crowbob]

What on earth were these people thinking? Get a second big dog. Dog attacks first little dog. People lockup first little dog?

However, big dog did murder little dog.

Good riddance, big dog.

[Tervuren]

Originally Posted by Baz

On board with what Sammy said 100%.

This was a human problem...not a dog problem.

No such thing as problems...just opportunities.

Sorry the OP had to go through this but thank you for doing what you could.

I'd say it was a dog problem.

Maybe they could have put down the rescue?

Who else would want the dog with full disclosure?

They tried to provide the Shepherd a home,
they did this for a dog people didn't want.

Perhaps they could have put it down when they first got it?

Is that your suggestion?

[Steve Carlton]

I feel bad for "Frank." Seems pretty clear that the neighbors should have gotten rid of the GS after the first attack. I doubt there's any training that would have made it safe for Frank, and he deserved better. I doubt a shelter would have placed the GS somewhere else and he probably would have been destroyed, but I don't know their protocol. German Shepherds are over bred by people who don't know what they're doing and a lot of them are not stable, hence their bad reputation. Or, being a rescue, the dog may have been abused. Either way, that dog was high risk and bound to hurt something sooner or later. A good GS is as sweet and gentle as a Golden Retriever, yet brave as they come when it counts. I'm a BIG fan of a good GS.

[Baz]

Originally Posted by Tervuren

I'd say it was a dog problem.

Maybe they could have put down the rescue?

Who else would want the dog with full disclosure?

They tried to provide the Shepherd a home,
they did this for a dog people didn't want.

Perhaps they could have put it down when they first got it?

Is that your suggestion?

Without knowing more than what has thus been posted.......

The GSD could have been just fine in a home with no other dogs. Or perhaps a different dog.

The neighbors were obvious pretty clueless on their responsibilities as humans.

[T77911S]

the dog never went after the cats or any other dogs.

it did come after me when I was riding my bike. I have a been chased by LOTS of dogs, some are more vicious than others, this one was at the top of that scale.

I don't know if the ex wife wanted it shot but based on the family I know how white trash the ex husband is and I am imagine he had to do the "manly" thing and shoot the "bad" dog.

my thought was that there was no more danger to the rest of the animals.

I think they tried to do the right thing after the first attack. the dog probably would have been put down if it went to a shelter.


our lab just died at Christmas and she was good with other dogs expect little ones like frank. she never went after frank but if a little dog got too close (especially when it came to her ball) she might go after it.

[Tervuren]

Dogs can talk and communicate with each other. I've seen several instances where it clearly happened.

Strange dog visiting house about to go into an off limits area, dog in house goes over, and something got clearly communicated not to take those stairs or go through that door.

If it was just between these two dogs I wonder what they said to each other?

I guess we'll never know.