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Porsche Crest Stiff Body

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I suppose it could look silly, a full cage on a Targa I mean.

Starting with a Targa which has extra structure (which impedes on the foot space), I imagine this combination of yours will be stiffer than a coupe with full cage.

You are still an expert compared to anyone I personally know, take the complement sir.



I noticed the eye protection, smart choice.
Not sure if it will be stiffer because it was a Targa, I suppose it's possible, but the roll-cage definitely does the trick for increased stiffness.

Thanks for the compliment, it is appreciated.
However I will still object to being called an expert, so we can meet on Mulholland one evening to arm-wrestle over the decision.
Or perhaps, rock, paper, scissors if you prefer.

Just joking, we all just love cars here on this thread and I have always had a "fun time" (as Frank has explained the benefits of), playing with and working with cars and motorcycles since I was 12 years old.

Working on them has always been as much fun as driving them for some reason.
Even though working on cars can be frustrating and arduous.
I find that quite interesting.

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I got a real kick seeing how the "experts" do it.
I'm sorry Kevin I've known you long enough to know that you are the real Expert when it comes to sheet metal and Porsche restoration. Few have your skills.

Yours truly will never gain your expertise in body work, paint, and restoration...but I have fun trying. LOL

Remember, I'm just the gardener anyway.
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If I had seen the way the A pillar of the chassis and roof fit together like that I would have given up and payed someone else. Looks very, very hard to blend all those layers of sheetmetal together with a proper weld.
I was kind of thinking the same thing when I noticed how different the Targa and Coupe A-Pillar are.
The Targa A-Pillar is thicker/wider than the Coupe A-Pillar, the door seal channel is slightly off track from one another, and their respective angles are off by a few degrees.



They match up in the window frame but are way off in the door frame opening.
Some modification is required.



Using a hammer and dolly I was able to match up the drip rails pretty well.



Same for this side of the windshield frame. I should be able to MIG it all together and bondo the difference. Need to proceed first to see how it pans out.


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The floor is done except for a few details, ready for paint.




The Passenger door frame fits well. Slightly tight, will raise the rear of the roof 2mm to correct.



Door ajar and everything moves smoothly.

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Not sure if it will be stiffer because it was a Targa
I think it will be stiffer, but also heavier because of the floor wheel well reinforcing, and the windshield surround reinforcement.

However the loss of 36 lbs of taga glass should take some of the sting out of the numbers below.

Targa vs Coupe weight
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Leffingwell in Porsche 911 Buyers Guide (a pretty useless book due to severe repetition) says:

1974: 911S 2443 add 135 lbs for Targa
1977: 911S 2470 add 90 lbs for Targa
1978: 911SC 2558 Targa 2730

1983: 911SC 2560 Cabrio 2750

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Porsche Crest Interior details

With the interior looking better, it's time to complete the dashboard and some other details while fitting all the metal. Looks barren without the gauges and dash pad.



May repaint the metal dash black to look cleaner.



I realized I could take out the oil temp/press gauge and speedo from the Type 34 since they are 1973 911 gauges.



Here's the speedometer, I'll put a VW one back in most likely. A VDO tach is visible to the right of the speedo, I'll leave that alone.



Bought a '73 911T tachometer and fuel/oil gauge from Ebay.
Also got a RSR clock delete plug from Ebay to complete the gauge section.



Will look for a dashboard pad, glove box container, and a couple of switches to finish the dash area. May use a 1973 911S steering wheel I have.
The steering wheel in the photos is a Porsche wheel but an unattractive one.

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Thumbs up Isle of Man

The Isle of Man Race is unbelievable.
If you love speed this is for you.

These guys are nuts!
You have to have respect for their ability and courage.
I'd love to see this race in person someday.

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Went to Metal Yard on Wednesday to get steel for projects.



I love the Traveling Crane that Industrial Metal and Supply has.
It travels the entire length of the building, beautiful.



As I arrived, I noticed that the odometer on the 1973 SS350 El Camino had turned 66612 miles for the first time.
Good thing I'm not superstitious.



Got some 20 gauge sheet metal. It was lightly oiled to prevent rusting.



Got some metal tubing to complete the roll bar assembly in the Type 34.
Used some Lacquer thinner to clean off, sanded it, and painted the tubing so it would be ready to install soon.


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The Isle of Man Race is unbelievable.
If you love speed this is for you.

These guys are nuts!
You have to have respect for their ability and courage.
I'd love to see this race in person someday.

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Been there. It is nuts!
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Got some steel plates to fasten to the wheel wells on the Type 34. Using 13mm nuts and bolts.
The steel down tubes from the main hoop will be welded to these plates.



After cleaning with lacquer thinner and sanding, painting will prevent or slow any rusting on the parts.



Soon I will make the roll cage for the Targa. First out of cardboard to see how it looks but more importantly to get the patterns for the bender.
Should be fun.
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Merry Christmas to you too Banning! Porsches sure do sing a pretty song!
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I realized I could take out the oil temp/press gauge and speedo from the Type 34 since they are 1973 911 gauges.



Here's the speedometer, I'll put a VW one back in most likely. A VDO tach is visible to the right of the speedo, I'll leave that alone.



Bought a '73 911T tachometer and fuel/oil gauge from Ebay.
Also got a RSR clock delete plug from Ebay to complete the gauge section.



Will look for a dashboard pad, glove box container, and a couple of switches to finish the dash area. May use a 1973 911S steering wheel I have.
The steering wheel in the photos is a Porsche wheel but an unattractive one.
Hey, I think you bought that chop top type 3 Ghia from me a few years ago. What does it look like now?
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First of all, Happy New Year to everyone and a big thank you to Wayne for posting this thread to the New Years Edition.

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The entire Pelican Parts Team would like to thank you for giving us the opportunity to serve your Porsche parts and tech needs throughout 2013! Our Tech Article Library and Porsche Parts Catalog are always expanding based on your valuable feedback. Here's to a happy, healthy and safe 2014 for you and your family!

What Ever Happened to the Famous Mulholland RSR?
The setting was Southern California in the 1970s, and more specifically, the underground racing societies who transformed Mulholland Drive into their own racing track during the dark of night. A variety of sports cars took part but there was one chopped-top 911 that ruled the road.
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Hi Jonathan, will be posting recent work soon done on the type 34. Do you remember how much I paid for the car by any chance? Just curious.
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Blades

It became quite warm during the end of December but the first couple of weeks were cold. I worked inside on some projects like the blades for the wind turbine.

I start with plain cardboard, a razor blade, and some duct tape similar to how we are going to build the roll cage in the Targa.



We are going to use the sheet metal we got from Industrial Metal Supply recently.



After spending some time with the pieces cut out, a rough blade was created.
I designed about a dozen blades and decided to start with this one.
The other designs utilized carbon fiber and were more difficult to accomplish.
The frame in the photo I welded together a couple of years ago.

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Using better cardboard Ruben and I were able to make a nice copy.



From that we made paper patterns very carefully.



Then using the skil saw with a metal cutting blade we cut out each piece.
Ruben helped alot by calculating lengths and angles on paper first.

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After driving to San Fernando to Roscoe Sheet Metal we asked the owner to please bend these pieces per our specs. Ruben was responsible for it coming out right, lol.



Here's the owner making final bends on a piece.



Some pieces were bent too far and had to be spread apart with this machine, a 120 Ton Press.



Small pieces done first. You can see Ruben's calculations in the foreground.


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