Where did all the early 911's go?

[Rot 911]

Jeff I agree with you on the speculators. 10 years ago they were just neat, older Porsches and then they got a cult following (example the 911S registry) and people got crazy over them.

[Sunroof]

I am in agreement with the market softening, but it is obvious that owners of older 911's like myself are just holding on to them and simply enjoying them. Why sell them unless your desparate or fed up! The longhoods will rebound as the economy turns and they may even enjoy a newer popularity comparable to the 356's. Its inevitable!

[Vintage Racer]

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins

So, they are bailing. The "drivers" prices are plummeting as the market shrinks back down to the true enthusiast, the guys who actually like (and know how) to turn wrenches.

Please let me know when the find the next guy "bailing" out of his early 911. I am in the market for a second one (a SWB or LWB 911S coupe "driver").

Personally, I wish they'd crash in value by 50%. I'd buy two.

[pwd72s]

Originally Posted by targa911S

I think $70K + is dreaming right now for an early S.

I "sold" mine for less than that... But I had ulterior motives...

[targa911S]

I think your coupe and my Targa would have made a nice pair!

[pwd72s]

Originally Posted by targa911S

I think your coupe and my Targa would have made a nice pair!

Indeed!

[Shaun @ Tru6]

They're all under restoration.

[speeder]

I remember back in '02 or '03 helping a buddy find a '73 RS. The dollar was still very strong against the euro and I was finding outstanding examples in Europe for ~$50k U.S. Great, rare colors, documented histories, etc... Not Pebble Beach concours but very, very nice drivers. And they were relatively plentiful for sale.

At some point I found him a Gulf Orange car in the U.S. that was a well-known car among collectors and r-gruppe, etc. The guy wanted around $100k for it and my friend said pass. That wound up being really cheap a year or two later. FWIW, the buyer could have bought 10 of them for that price but didn't like that sore 6-hole feeling.

[Macroni]

I believe they want $120,000 for this one...... today!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1968-Porsche-911-Lightweight-911R-Racing-Concours-Track_W0QQitemZ150340302511QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_C ars_Trucks?hash=item150340302511&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A-1%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

[targa911S]

A 911R light. Yeah they will get that kind of money.

[tangerine911S]

Here she is at the NE Consours. They were VERY generous to allow mine in (sight unseen) but it was fun.

[targa911S]

very nice!

[Vintage Racer]

Originally Posted by targa911S

A 911R light. Yeah they will get that kind of money.

I don't think it is a 911T/R. The VIN noted on eBay is 11835422 which is a 911 coupe. I think the T/Rs of 1968 were made from a 911T (being the lighter body) with a 911S engine. And:

Originally Posted by eBay description

This car is the result of a 9 year restoration, creating a modern version of a 911R.... mechanically this car is based on a 911R with twin plug racing 2.0 engine..... 935 suspension including adjustable links...

It looks to me to be a replica of a 1968 911T/R. There is no doubt that it is a beautifully restored car.

My replica:

[targa911S]

Well nice or not, if it is not a REAL 911R it won't bring the money he wants from a discriminating buyer of collectible 911's. I just noticed it has a fender gas door too. Now that is NOT 911R stuff.
Your car is very nice, and I respect you for not trying to palm it off as a real RS.

[URY914]

Let me know if you guys need some more pictures....

[dad911]

I've got 2, and I'm keeping them both. 71 & 73. Probably both be 'barn finds' for someone else, in about 20 years, when I'm gone.....

[targa911S]

Originally Posted by URY914

Let me know if you guys need some more pictures....

Dave White had a real R that was being restored. It had been in a fire but was all there. I believe he told me he paid $20K for it as was.

[Vintage Racer]

Originally Posted by targa911S

Dave White had a real R that was being restored. It had been in a fire but was all there. I believe he told me he paid $20K for it as was.

Was it this one?





Nonetheless, many things increase or decrease the value of any car (including an early Porsche):

• Does it have the proper paperwork?
• Was it driven in anger by a famous race car driver (i.g., Peter Gregg)?
• How correct is the car?
• Is it the real deal or just a replica?

I previously posted a car with an asking price of $8500. The prices of a running cars go up from there.

I enjoy driving my car almost every weekend. It is not an investment but a passion.

My car does have a proper 1973 911S number on the engine case, and I continually try to exceed the rev boundaries:



Some people worry about the preservation and show car awards, and some just drive 'em hard with little regard to the structural integrity of the body and engine.

[targa911S]

No I do not think that is the car. It should have a gas filler neck and cap through the hood. That one also has metal front fenders. On a real R the front clip and the doors and deck were glass. The only steel was the rear fenders.

[berettafan]

i think you guys are talking T/R vs. R.