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Mike I do a fair amount of criminal and family law. Not trying to be a scare monger, but I have seen these types of scenarios flip on you and the next thing you know she is calling the cops saying you have assaulted her. In most jurisdictions, you will find yourself in jail calling a bail bondsman. Don't let this happen to you.
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How does one go about involuntary hospitalization? She presents normal in public. She will be kept for observation for 24 hours then released.
Edge-u-macate me on this one....
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Take any and all measures necessary to ensure that a situation such as that Kurt is alluding to does not occur. The worst possible outcome would be that you children are taken away from you.
It can happen. Be sure that it doesn't. Lawyer up.
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A very good friend of mine got caught in this. His wacko wife called the cops something like 20 times and each time they could not find a problem. She went on the internet (he found this out later) and on a battered womans forum found out the answer. She went into the bathroom and called 911 when he was on his way home. He called from the corner store asking if she needed anything. Told the cops he was beating her. Hanging up, she then hit her head against the mirror and broke a towel bar. My friend walked into the house, cops arrived 2 minutes later and he was cuffed and arrested. Three days later he got out of jail and returned home to find the place gutted. Mike, please be careful here and CYA!
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Get into counseling (for you) and document everything. You might ponder a nannycam. Best of luck.
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 I don't think I would tell your wife, though, she might use it against you in a court of law( say your the one that's crazy)....because of the false distortion or social stigma placed on going to counseling... she won't go with you, right?
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Mike-I can't add anything to what the others have already posted. It's all good advice, in my opinion.
Please be careful and watch your back. Both figuratively and literally. You can get through this and your life will be better in the end. I do hope that your wife gets the help that it seems that she needs.
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It takes 2 to Tango. What is your part in this? How do U excerbate the situation?
BTW I already know the answer. Anyway the situation is escalulating and is or already has reached the UNTENABLE state. U are going to have to become proactive and stop being passive by thinking, "Ohh it will get better." It ain't! Something has to change... Your going to have to get off the dime buddy, and ask for proffessional HELP. You are going to have to realize this is beyond your level of competence. One as I have suggested MANY times before a SHRINK and now two an Attorney. This ain't about lookin GOOD, this is about survival...NOW your job is begining to come at RISK? Geezus at what point do U wake up? For a smart guy U ain't bin playin your cards very well. BTW consider this little missive to be the life preserver being thrown to you. It's time you grab it and start to swim... BTW it is all good and well talkin to the bOyz on this Board, but it is like putting a bandaid on cancer.
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Mike,
If you get into a tough spot, this thread might be your "life preserver" as Tabs says. It pretty much documents the whole history with comments on actions and situations.
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Mike, it sounds like it has gone past the point of no return, but you'll be able to reinvent life again.
Her irrational behaviour around you and normal behaviour in public means she either has a mental disfunction, or she is being very devious. Be careful. By her faking crazy and driving you out of the house, I believe legally you may forfit rights to it later on in court. It may be worth it, or not. . It's already been said, but before anything you need to get several neutral, third party witnesses to attest to her behaviour. CYA. Mabye a councillor might, if she responds to a letter that describes the situation. |
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Hi Mike, I would call the local police and talk to them about your situation and the struggles you are having. You can then mention that you do not want a divorce, you just need help for your wife because you believe that the issue is escalating and that she is a danger to herself and others. Ask them how to have your wife committed or call the local hospital and ask them. One of them should be able to help you. Then find a nanny or college student to help with the kids while you work. I wish you nothing but the best and do not want to read about you dying and your wife being charged with murder.
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A young man I know got blindsided by his fiancee this way.
He's a knucklehead but in no way agressive, and wrapped his life around her and her children from another marriage. She got him back into athletics, and is twice his size. Apparently they had a(nother) drunk argument one night. She pushed him, he pushed back, she called cops. Apparently she had thought about for a while, because the prosecutor gave him the hammer. He goes to jail for a few days, then gets released on the street with no wallet/possesions, and a serious r.o. The bias in any physical situations are with the women. |
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You also want to involve HR now, since you noted that your boss has talked to you about a work issue. If you invoke HR now, you are pretty much un-firable while this is going on. If you don't have an EAP, contact your family doctor and he/she should know someone who can help. Document, document, document. You need a pen cam and a few nanny cams. You need to watch for the bad behavior. You might even find out what is going on when you're not there. The counselor/psychiatric doctor will be able to help you opn what documentation you need. Since this is happening in front of the kids, I'm sure they can back you up on what is happening.
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I remember my closest friend mom used to "get sick and go to the hospital"
Only recently over beers he confided that when we were kids his mom thought his dad was trying to kill her... she would get his dad's gun and wave it around... my friend would take the gun when mom wasn't looking and unload it. Eventually she had to be institutionalized, however after some time got better and returned to the family. I used to sleep over at their house... never had a clue anything was wrong... seemed like the nicest people (and they were). I would agree with the others who have suggested you get professional help for everyone sake.
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To start the process, you can call the police and request an ambulance taken her in against her will. Leg and arm restraints to a stretcher is necessary. You drive yourself to the hosp and talk to the mental health counselor. The Police should write a report and deliver it directly. In my state, once taken in on a involuntary, they are there for 72 hrs; period. Often, it's enough time to get them on the meds they need. Good luck.
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My biggest concern here is for the kids, I grew up in a very dysfunctional environment from about 9yo until I bolted when I was just about to turn 18......it took me years and years of self realization and counseling to get through it and on with my life, even though it was explained numerous times that it wasn't my fault....
you need to get your kids out of that environment asap or it will effect them in ways you can't even imagine.......... Most all the advice I've read in this thread is spot on, but you've got to stand up and take action asap before it escalates to a non-fixable situation. Period. The ball is in your court to save your kids' future well being.......
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Weren't we talking "nannycam" and "pen cam" in this same thread about a year ago?
You gotta be proactive in that regard, Mike, lest it bite you in the azz.
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