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			Mike you need to grab the boy, take the 911 and go on a short roadtrip...  We've got an autocross coming up in march in OKC... you should come up....
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|  02-24-2010, 12:04 PM | 
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			Mike, Feel real uncomfortable with the direction this is going. Not at all that I think that you are a pedophile (which you are not) BUT all its going to take is one snide comment by your wife to someone, anyone, who are the wrong people to be talking with, then CPS are called and life could get very difficult. Its really a time to be careful with the situation... Joe A 
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			It is OK to escort your son back to his bedroom and tuck him in, or read him a little story, or listen to him.  That is a good way to get him reassured and back into bed.  At 11 a kid needs to be told that everything is going to work out fine and that everything is alright.   Sitting by the bed is OK. Getting in is not. The message that you are there for him and accessable is good, but remind him he is growing up, and becoming a young man. Things like this pass quickly with a little encouragement and guidance. | ||
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			Well its been several months and things have gotten pretty nasty.  Pretty much every day is a hassle.  The peak was when we were driving back from Iowa a few weeks ago - she flipped out over something and tried to jump out of the car.  Great memories for the kiddos huh?   Last weekend she came after me. I wasn't too afraid but I did grad Max and we left the house for a few hours. Scared the crap out of us both. She flipped big time. She has come after me before. A few months ago she tried to choke me. I actually started to laugh. Not sure why. Maybe I thought it would brake into a tickle fight and we would start to kiss? Nope, that didn't happen. Well today my boss finally told me that I got start coming into work at a decent hour and leaving when everyone else does. He said he understands that I have to do all the driving and what not but I still have a job and that single parents figure it out so I have to as well. I called her up and explained it. She understood. We are working on getting rides for the kiddos to and from various venues. I also told her calmly that if she was ever to come after me again I would call the police. She twisted it all in such a way that I was kicking her out. Funny thing, I think she wants me to kick her out - adds to the whole blame thing. 
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			I'm sorry to hear that Mike...
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|  08-03-2010, 08:58 PM | 
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			As well sorry to hear this. When you mentioned possibly going on a cruise recently I shuddered at that thought. First thing that came to mind was her jumping overboard at night. Sorry to hear its not gotten any better. Sounds like its time to save yourself and the kids and let her to herself. 
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 Can't remember if we've ever asked you if your spoons are locked away where she can't get to them. It's probably time to put the knives away, too. Dude... don't say it's not necessary... stranger things have happened. 
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|  08-03-2010, 11:02 PM | 
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			Mike...Damn.  Just Damn...   
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|  08-03-2010, 11:15 PM | 
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			Yea. my EX came at me with a butcher knife ONCE, she was a surgical nurse, as I've said before I went to counseling , GLAD I did..... sorry to here about your troubles.  Your responsible for YOUR part (1/2) of what's wrong with the relationship,  you won't be able to make up for the other half. No one else can walk in your shoes
		 
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|  08-04-2010, 12:07 AM | 
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			It is what it is - time for the next step.  I read the past posts and began to get really upset.  I am a fool to let this linger for so long.  I keep thinking it will get better.  I'm fooling myself.  She is real good at point the blame finger at me - she ofetn tells the kids that Daddy is gonna kick her out.  My son is ready for it.  He loves her but really doesn't think we stand a chance.  No one does but the little one - she has the faith of a saint.
		 
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			pretty sure there are always two sides to everystory..but damn..you have the faith (or patience) of a saint too.  anyone tries to choke me..and it is game on. good luck friend..i would search out a more peaceful life. 
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|  08-04-2010, 06:20 AM | 
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			Mike, you and your kids deserve better.
		 
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			This is one of the saddest threads I have ever read.  You absolutely need to move on. 
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|  08-04-2010, 07:09 AM | 
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 She is becoming a danger to herself and to others. You need to take steps now. I am not talking about divorce, but possible involuntary commitment. I know this sounds nasty, but she tried to commit suicide. She also assaulted and battered you. Please, think of your children. Even if they are not directly/physically hurt, they are indirectly being mentally hurt here. You can see the effect on your son. You need to talk to a mental health professional to help you make the decisions your wife is not capable of making. You are a great husband and father. And I know you love her. But, sometimes you have to be "the bad guy". You will be to her, but you will also be doing the right thing for her and the children. James 
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|  08-04-2010, 07:35 AM | 
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			Mike, Agree with your post about letting it linger so long. Also agree with Dottore that it's time to move on. I don't remember, bit I'm assuming you've gotten some professional help involved. If not, it's way past due for everyone's sanity and safety. You're a good guy and deserve peace & happiness in life. Seems like you've been pretty loyal, but you (& the kids) only have one lifetime to enjoy. 
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			Looks like James did a much better job of saying it.
		 
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			Lube... your sitting in a lifeboat with 4.. she's still busy drilling holes.. you will soon run out of digits... sink & drown.. having saved no-one... Rika | ||
|  08-04-2010, 07:51 AM | 
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|  08-04-2010, 08:23 AM | 
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			Lube: a man that loves his family.... NOT A FOOL... seek counseling by an impartial pro
		 
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