Why AR and not AK?

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by Seahawk

I hated my Bushmaster Varminter...but it was as accurate a gun at distance I have ever owned. The gun was great, my relationship with it was less so.

I traded it, sans scope and for a lot of ammo, for a Ranch Mini-14 with scope. I am a lot happier.

What did you hate about it?

My BM has only had about 500rds through it. Except for a the time i used a Sig magazine it's never jammed or hiccuped in any way (it jammed every other round with the sig mag, what a POS). It is aslo freakishly accurate. It has to be an aberration how accurate this rifle is.

[MotoSook]

Hornady is starting to product 7.62 (with Russian casings). Maybe they would be good rounds to hord while practicing with the Wolf stuff.

[m21sniper]

Most likely. Hornady is not in the business of making junk, that's for sure.

[tabs]

I have seen the Milled Norinco's NIB go for $1450 plus buyers premium at auction. New Arsenal Milleds are going for $1750.

So I would guess that anything under a $1000 would be better buy it today...for it will be gone tommorow. That said the guy who bought my AK didn't even argue about the price. He was the one would told me they are getting harder to find and wanted to buy it before they dried up.

The limited edition Arsenal Milled SIDE FOLDER (metal tube skelton buttstock) is the one to find. Only 300 of those were made. Those are about $1700 now. Had one and used it as part of my SR25 deal. They were 1300 when new.

[Seahawk]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

What did you hate about it.

First of all, the Bushmaster is a great gun. It never jammed, was stupid accurate and had fit and finish.

But I didn't like how it felt on my shoulder...it just felt wrong: trigger pull, weight, balance.

Preference in fire arms is so subjective, Snipe. The mini-14 is a better fit, for me.

[911boost]

I love my Rock River Arms Varmiter. It is dead nuts accurate as well. I also like my M1A.

Bill

[tabs]

A friend of mines Daddy once told me that the best isn't always the best. His meaning was the top of the line product...That is certainly true of Washing Machines, Refrigerators and TVs. However in Spoons quality is always the best. So always buy the best quality you can afford. It may hurt you when you pull the wallet out, but later on you will be pleasantly surprised.

That is not to say you don't try an find the best deal. when buying a used spoon of the same model as new the price structure should be just below the price that it can be bought from a Distributor. Thus a Glock at 450 Distributor a good price for a used like new should be 425.

[billwagnon]

I thought this was gonna be a hillbilly vs Eskimo thread.

[idontknow]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

AK-74s have never caught on in the US, i think they're still banned under the import ban from the early 90s.

Everyone uses the 7.62x39 round, and almost everyone uses crappy wolf JHP ammo that doesn't perform very well in ballistic gelatin.

That being said, no way in fk i want to get shot ANYWHERE by an AK!!!

Bulgarian AK-74s are still being brought in and can be picked up for around $700 and up. The 5.45 stuff won't become popular until the 7.62x39 ammo or guns get expensive.

[Gogar]

Well, the cost of living is very low in AR, but it's damn near impossible to get good homeowner's insurance. AK is beautiful, but if you. . . . . . .. .

Oh. Sorry.

[MotoSook]

The Eskimos want to know what you guys think of this AK?

http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Hungarian_FEG_AMD-65_7.62x39_Rifle.html

[porsche4life]

http://www.centerfiresystems.com/AKAGUN20.aspx
http://www.centerfiresystems.com/bulgarianak-74545x39riflepartakagun-bul-1.aspx
http://www.centerfiresystems.com/DRA-GUN.aspx

[MotoSook]

I was just on the center fire website

[porsche4life]

My room mate just spent about 1200 with them. Following about 600 2 weeks ago.

[greglepore]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

AK-74s have never caught on in the US, i think they're still banned under the import ban from the early 90s.

Everyone uses the 7.62x39 round, and almost everyone uses crappy wolf JHP ammo that doesn't perform very well in ballistic gelatin.

That being said, no way in fk i want to get shot ANYWHERE by an AK!!!

The 74's aren't banned, you can get them from several sources. I had a 74U built by a gunsmith from a parts kit with the requisite number of American parts (and the stupid tax stamp). The real advantage from a shooters standpoint isn't so much the ballistics (I agree, either round will stop ya) but the relative lack of recoil compared to the 47, which has tons more recoil than an AR variant.

[tabs]

Originally Posted by Soukus

The Eskimos want to know what you guys think of this AK?

http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Hungarian_FEG_AMD-65_7.62x39_Rifle.html

The wire shoulder stock is flimsy..and will flex on ya. I have generally heard good things about HU AK's but I am no expert on the matter.

Henderson Defense Industries builds one he11 of an AK or AR for that matter.

http://shop.hendersondefense.biz/main.sc

[tabs]

Skip the Romanian AK's

[MotoSook]

Thanks for the warning on the wire stock.

So what I'm hearing is that the AKs are crap because of cheap commie manufacturing. The only good ones are going to run $1200 with a milled steel receiver. At that point guys just buy a nice AR. Too simple a conclusion?


If I find ARs clunky and cheap for what some sell for, I'll probably regret buying an AK. So what's another semi- that eats 7.62x39?

Or do I just buy as much 77 and 80 grain 5.56 as I can find. Thems are no cheap rounds. I would build a 6.8 SPC but ammo availability is a little questionable and I don't reload.

[Jeff Higgins]

I'll just stick to my lever guns and be better armed than all the fools with their plastic mouse guns.

[MotoSook]

Maybe I go this route and pickup a bolt action .308 first. Still looking for one. Just haven't been able to catch a show yet. But my FFL had a couple of Howas in stock that felt pretty good.

I'll just stick to my lever guns and be better armed than all the fools with their plastic mouse guns.