Gun cap - ##+1, do you FULLY load your weapon

[targa911S]

Originally Posted by HHI944

Targa, who is the maker of that shoulder holster? Do they make one that'll fit a P9S? I also have slightly longer arms and as a result don't find a strong side draw comfortable. Currently, I carry SOB, but I'm looking for a shoulder holster.

It's a triple K. Not cheap. Like buying a saddle.

Gun Holsters and Gun Magazines by Triple K :: #191 Vertical Challenger Shoulder Holster

[Rot 911]

I can't believe the number of people here that don't carry with one in the pipe. When I carry my Ruger LCP in my pocket it is with one in the pipe. It is DA on the first shot and hammerless, so how would I ever have an AD without my finger on the trigger? Same with my Springfield EMP which I always carry cocked and locked. Flick safety off and pull the trigger.

In that supposed "split second" you are racking the slide on your weapon, the bad guy is already shooting at you. This is not the movies. By the time you think you need to pull your weapon, things are already going bad.

On all of my carry concealed pistols, my finger is my safety. If it is not on the trigger it will not fire. If you are carrying a pistol that can fire without your finger on the trigger, I suggest you get another carry pistol.

[UconnTim97]

Originally Posted by vash

on a side note,,the 10 round mags for my Glock SUCK! you need herculean strength to get that last round in. it is more of a 9.5 mag. stupid california.

Is it legal in California to obtain preban hi cap mags?

[azasadny]

I carry my Sig P239 with one in the chamber, ready to go, but with my older guns, I don't keep one in the chamber. I want to carry my 1911A1 in Condition 1, but it's a WWII gun and I'm not ready to trust it in that state of readiness, so I don't carry that one. My experience (military) is that when you need to use your gun, you WILL NOT remember where the safety is or how to deactivate it unless you practice a lot!

[targa911S]

Art my 1911 is older than yours and it is fine. yours should have the 1/4 cocked position also.

[Porsche-O-Phile]

Originally Posted by UconnTim97

Is it legal in California to obtain preban hi cap mags?

No.

You can however (at least for the time being) purchase "repair kits" for magazines that just miiiiiiiiiiight result in a magazine originally intended for 10 rounds to handle more.

So I've been told anyway.

Man it's really nice to not live in CA anymore sometimes...

[vash]

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile

No.

You can however (at least for the time being) purchase "repair kits" for magazines that just miiiiiiiiiiight result in a magazine originally intended for 10 rounds to handle more.

So I've been told anyway.

Man it's really nice to not live in CA anymore sometimes...

i'm hoping the bad guy runs out of ammo the same time i do! hahaha.

my 9mm is pre-ban..my "ace in the hole". and my brother gave me many magazines already filled with some speer ammo.

[Eric Coffey]

Originally Posted by Rot 911

I can't believe the number of people here that don't carry with one in the pipe. When I carry my Ruger LCP in my pocket it is with one in the pipe. It is DA on the first shot and hammerless, so how would I ever have an AD without my finger on the trigger? Same with my Springfield EMP which I always carry cocked and locked. Flick safety off and pull the trigger.

In that supposed "split second" you are racking the slide on your weapon, the bad guy is already shooting at you. This is not the movies. By the time you think you need to pull your weapon, things are already going bad.

On all of my carry concealed pistols, my finger is my safety. If it is not on the trigger it will not fire. If you are carrying a pistol that can fire without your finger on the trigger, I suggest you get another carry pistol.

A big +1

[red-beard]

Originally Posted by Gogar

I've seen that movie gun battle where one guy has the other guy in a corner and his gun goes "click." I don't want to be that guy. So, +1.

That is precisely what happened to the bad guys in the jewelry store in Houston. Theirs went click and the store owner had more weapons around the store.

I carry one in the pipe, cocked and locked. I have only modern firearms for CCW. If I had infinite money, I would carry only SIGs with a decocker. But I am not fearful of an AD. And I periodically check my pistols while I'm carrying to make sure the safety is engaged.

[krystar]

carry a HK P7. one in chamber is just as safe since hammer is internal and isn't cocked

[Wintermute]

I never have a round chambered in any of my guns. I give an intruder a moment to think when they hear that round being clicked into the chamber =)

I know, why should I give them a chance? Perhaps they might soil themselves first before they get a round in the knee. Having a blown out knee is bad, but a log in your shorts too, priceless (for me anyways).

[red-beard]

Originally Posted by Wintermute

I never have a round chambered in any of my guns. I give an intruder a moment to think when they hear that round being clicked into the chamber =)

I know, why should I give them a chance? Perhaps they might soil themselves first before they get a round in the knee. Having a blown out knee is bad, but a log in your shorts too, priceless (for me anyways).

Do people seriously belive that an intruder is affected by hearing the sound of you racking the slide or pumping the shotgun? Seems to me you just told them you do not take your home defense seriously.

Maybe it adds drama to a TV show or movie, but we all know they are not real life.

[Wintermute]

Originally Posted by red-beard

Do people seriously belive that an intruder is affected by hearing the sound of you racking the slide or pumping the shotgun? Seems to me you just told them you do not take your home defense seriously.

Maybe it adds drama to a TV show or movie, but we all know they are not real life.

Of course I don't believe that, I was mainly being sarcastic. I will use the proper emote next time.

[red-beard]

We do stress green text for sarcasm.

[peppy]

My wife set me straight when we got the Glock. If the magazine is the gun there is a round in the chamber.

[targa911S]

Originally Posted by Wintermute

I never have a round chambered in any of my guns. I give an intruder a moment to think when they hear that round being clicked into the chamber =)

I know, why should I give them a chance? Perhaps they might soil themselves first before they get a round in the knee. Having a blown out knee is bad, but a log in your shorts too, priceless (for me anyways).

That's just silly. You would be dead. If somebody is in your house about to attack you and your loved ones, and your gonna aim to wound him??? Just stupid. Shoot to kill and empty the gun.

[Tim Hancock]

Originally Posted by Rot 911

I can't believe the number of people here that don't carry with one in the pipe. When I carry my Ruger LCP in my pocket it is with one in the pipe. It is DA on the first shot and hammerless, so how would I ever have an AD without my finger on the trigger? Same with my Springfield EMP which I always carry cocked and locked. Flick safety off and pull the trigger.

In that supposed "split second" you are racking the slide on your weapon, the bad guy is already shooting at you. This is not the movies. By the time you think you need to pull your weapon, things are already going bad.

On all of my carry concealed pistols, my finger is my safety. If it is not on the trigger it will not fire. If you are carrying a pistol that can fire without your finger on the trigger, I suggest you get another carry pistol.

+2

Taurus TCP gets carried with one in the pipe just like the Glock. These things are kind of like a revolver in that they are not really "cocked" when one is in the pipe. The pulling of the trigger pulls the striker back and releases it. It is a long relatively stiff trigger pull as it has to move the spring loaded striker back a considerable distance before it will release it.

Now having said that, I would not feel comfortable carrying a cocked single action type gun, but I would not be afraid to carry one with one in the pipe with if it had a decocking hammer blocking type safety. I just personally like the Glock type set-up where I do not have to even think about safeties should I need to instantly draw and fire my weapon.

I highly doubt I will ever need to use my concealed carry weapon, but if I ever do, it is reassuring to know that it will be a type of gun I have tons of practice drawing and firing in IDPA type competition. The muscle memory attained by safely drawing and firing thousands of rounds at center mass of cardboard human sized targets at from point blank range out to 25 yards is pretty amazing. I highly recommend those who intend to carry give IDPA a try as it fun and it really improves ones confidence an proficiency in safely drawing and engaging close in targets rapidly.

[red-beard]

Originally Posted by targa911S

That's just silly. You would be dead. If somebody is in your house about to attack you and your loved ones, and your gonna aim to wound him??? Just stupid. Shoot to kill and empty the gun.

+1. By the time I'm looking around my house for a bad guy, the safety will already be off, with the finger just outside the trigger housing.

I've had a couple of times where the wife hears a noise in the house, and I have to do a room by room search. It was always done condition 0.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by peppy

My wife set me straight when we got the Glock. If the magazine is the gun there is a round in the chamber.

I like your wife already!

[dlockhart]

Originally Posted by Soukus

Still have time to rack the slide?

And what of the revolvers? Empty wheel, just like an empty chamber?

Well, when I am going to East Aurora to buy many units of product, I go pre- loaded.
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