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Yes the shot/slug would not explain the bite marks clamping power and claw marks.
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I know it's a stretch but could a deer slug go through a cougar and then hit the dog?
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I asked the vet if the slug could have already been in there because the dog was a rescue and the animal attack aggrevated it to cause a problem but he said that if it didn't go in thru the tail then he should be crippled or dead. We may never know the whole story on this there are inconsistencies here that don't add up because I asked the vet if this was consistent with a gun shot wound and he said no if the slug came to rest where it was then he should have had more damage and should have been dead and there is another thing about the bump that the slug made. He was way under nourished when we got him and there was no bump so either it shifted or he got shot. We will investigate we are gonna ask the sheriff to keep the case open and if we find out anything we will turn it over to them otherwise unless I confirm it is who I think AND unless they are threatening I am not going to take it out on an innocent dog because their owner is a coward and an idiot. Now I will say that someone shooting at the two fighting and scout ended up with the short end of the stick but that would have also broke up the fight and the slug may have been a richocet from hitting the cat I don't know. I do know that I am not going to shoot any animal without first giving the owner the option to lock them up.
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I hope he recovers fully. That's the most important thing right now.
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They may not know they hit the dog. Or they did and went "oh ****" and said nothing.
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Or did the slug do a thru and thru on the cougar and enter thru an existing wound I don't know may never know but we just got a call from the vet he is up and around and has a healthy appetite and is not as grumpy as he usually is I think he will make a full recovery now the vet looked at the X-rays again real close to make sure their are no more surprises.
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Thanks everybody for the well wishes for scout he is a good dog and has been through a lot in the short time we have had him. I also apologize for the off handed remarks for shooting innocent dogs you usually don't hear that coming from a animal lover but I had just heard that those dogs had chased my daughter and her friend on there bikes which is something they kept from me because they know that I won't tolerate an animal threatening my family in any way.
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The sheriff doesn't want to take a report because if the in investigation was to develop that scout was doing anything wrong then it would bite us but he said if we hear anything that they can act on then to contact them again. He also told my wife that if their dogs come on the property we have a legal right to shoot them also that statement leads me to think they know who we are talking about and this may not be isolated
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Maybe the dog got shot by said neighbor.
Then dog went and hide to lick its wounds only to be jumped by cougar who smelled the fresh blood.
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I just dont think he would have survived that. I was thinking I don't know if the local farmers around here carry shotguns to defend againist predators my wife said when she talked to the conservation agent he was evasive about the whole cougar thing. I am wondering if scout engaged the cougar the cougar had him by the tail and the farmer shot at the cougar and it through and through the cougar and ends up in scout. They are still working in the fields around here I guess we will never know unless someone comes forward and gives us an account. Since he had a slug in him unfortunately a human was involved in this somehow and is probably too cowardly to face me and my family with the story even the sheriff said its not right to shoot a dog running away and to shoot a dog without at least giving the owner a warning what will happen. I am at a loss.
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Just looked up the typical attack pattern of a cougar and it is from behind going for the head or neck with the attempt to gut their victim but I suppose if it misses its mark it might grab a tail and typically a cougar will disengage the attack if the intended victim fights back. That fits the description of scouts wounds the slug is the wild card here.
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Oh now that the the slug was found it has been determined that what the vet thought was an incisor wound is probably the entry wound for the slug which means it didn't have much energy when it went in and the he said the slug had hit bone but not scouts.
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Glad to hear Scout is doing well.....
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He is really and he is back to eating and up more, he is still at the vet because they want to clean him out and look for other problems that would show up that way so we get him back tomorrow.
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You never know about this stuff.
I've got a little Walker dog & last summer my less than a year old grandson spent the night with us. The next morning Penny thought that Drew, my grandson ought to be up moving around. To calm things down, I took Penny for a walk down the road. Stuff from our recycle box was scattered around so I held her on the lead while I picked it up. A couple more houses, I saw trash scattered out. From the next came a big Rockwiller attacking Penny.
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Scout is still at the vet he had an impacted bowel that they got opened up and found some more spots that look like they could be problems from the injury. It has been proposed that the slug contacted the base of the tail shattering the bone bending the tail over and following the tail under the skin till it came out and went back in on top of the back coming to rest next to his spine anybody got any thoughts on this.
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It sounds like someone shot your dog and no cat was involved.
A guy North of here had his shepard stuck by his neibour with a pitchfork. The dog died and then the pitchfork owning neibours house burned down.....
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I wont go to that extreme but clarification to the law is the dog has to be on the property threatening before he can legally shoot a dog so shooting him in the butt would be an illegal shooting unless he can produce the damage done by my dog. I was asking if anybody thought this could happen
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The vet is still working on him to control the infection and is making progress but is slow going here is a pic of the progress and the slug that did it.
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How do you prove or disprove that the neighbor felt threatened?
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