I didn't click on Craig's thread until just this evening. Interesting subjects, too bad it went south.

My wife is 11 years in to the big M and still has night sweats and temperature regulating issues. She often lays a wet washcloth on her neck when she sleeps.

As for marriage, we are very conflict-averse with each other. We are in business together and we turn our frustrations loose on non-performing vendors. It's a great solution! :D

Marriages are as different as people. They all have their personalities and there is no one way for them to work.

One benefit of menopause and hot flashes is that once or twice a week I get a full strip tease at the breakfast table. Kinda sexy to watch a woman subconsciously remove one item of clothing at a time until she's sitting there hall-naked fanning herself with a folded newspaper.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1441761896.jpg

At least you had the decency to share a pic of her stunt double along with that description. ;)

Now that is funny!

...My Macallan 12 coming out my nose on my keyboard is not so much.:D

Yeah, when the PARFtards come out, I often get sucked into their poo-flinging.

My apologies.

My wife's Big M has been pretty benign so far. There are flashes of wild emotion swings, but its not been horrible.

Sounds familiar... Mr. Happy not so Happy..

Only you would imply that dating a few men or women would be allow one to provide better advice regarding marriage or menopause than a person who was successfully/happily married over 30 years and had experienced a spouse with menopause and survived.

No, I would not seek advice on rebuilding an engine from someone who has never rebuilt one successfully. The same with marriage. The guy who posted that they were happily married for 30 years was like Supertec...you are more like Motormeister.

Get out of the basement and go upstairs and have your mom explain things to you again.

My wife had hot flashes until she started taking the one-a-day vitamins (menopause formula)...and they went away almost immediately. Yes...I miss that strip show!

Bwahahahahhaha!

as with any good science experiment, one learns more from failure than from success.

i was told by a mod once to report all the basement comments, but i have only done it once and that person was banned. i instead choose to point out that personal attacks are an automatic red flag that the person who is making them, has no better argument to put forward. which is an admission that you don't have a point.

i am content with knowing i've won because you have no better argument then to falsely mock my living conditions.

By applying your logic, you must think Trump is a brilliant businessman.

he is, at using the system to make himself wealthy while screwing over his employees and the taxpayers of this country. you mistake his purpose ... his purpose is not to create a sustainable business, but to pump and dump, protecting his own personal wealth and profiting handsomely on the demise of his companies.

LOL...failing does not necessarily teach you anything other than your current idea is a failure. Obviously if failure improved scientific advice/experiments, we would have guys like you work at NASA. After failing at everything from launching a satellite to flushing the toilet...you would invent teleportation and time travel.

Wahhhh...go cry to a moderator. Your very first post in this thread was a personal attack...and now you want the mean man to stop making fun of your accomodations. Don't go tossing stones in a glass basement.

I am not sure what you think you "won"...but I really doubt you convinced anyone that your
knowledge of marriage or menopause were superior to that of the guy who was married for 30 years...as you suggested. Much less to some of the guys like me who have been happy/successfully married for almost 40. Having lots of failed relationships do not make you an expert in either. Go upstairs and ask your mom.

This is just wrong when applied to relationships. Often, one can learn more from a failure than a success. But failure after failure often indicates that one has learned nothing about how to maintain a successful relationship and continues to make relationship-ending mistakes.

All I know for sure is that someone that has failed at many relationships can tell me many way to screw relationships up....not how to make them work.

Score one for the guy with 30 years of wedded bliss. Who would you get your advice from...this guy...or the single, never married guy who believes a successful "experiment" in marriage is kicking a young lady out of his mom's basement at dawn?

everyone is different.

my point is making it work with one person for 30 years isn't actually any wisdom on "relationships" as a whole. they might be an expert on there exact relationship, with there exact partner, but without experiencing other relationships, there advice can only really be accurate on women like the one they are with, and in the circumstances they are in, with the guy they are with.

and cuddos to them for making it work. but again, its just one person, one relationship and one set of criteria. that hardly is experience enough to talk at great lengths about "relationships" as a larger entity. or provide good advise on different relationships with different people.



idk, maybe this is generational thing. older men always seem to advise me that women are all the same, that there are certain inevitable truths about them. but my experience is that women and there needs and wants are more diverse. maybe culture has just changed enough from the mono culture of the past, to a more diverse one. every woman i have dated is distinctly different from the other, what they need, what they want, how they interact with me, what they want from life, what there current and future lifestyle is ... all of these things are vastly different. no longer do we live in the meet in high school or college, graduate, get married, buy and house and pop out some kids world. that world is over. it is vastly more complex than that now. and the older i get, the more complex it becomes, as each persons past now comes into play. there mistakes and successes of the past manifesting as larger goals, needs and wants.

and because of this, one rule book for relationships, or one persons advise after 30 years of marriage just becomes less and less relevant. and as women, and esp the women i am interested wander from the path of these 30+ year marriage women both in needs and wants, it simply slowly fades away. it doesn't matter. the world is more complex than that.

i mean seriously, fint straight faced said "there is no problem that a relationship cannot compromise its way through" .... that statement is just absurd on its face value. a 17 year old out of his first relationship in high school knows that isn't true. i can cite at least a half dozen examples from my own life alone that show that isnt true. there are also extreme examples like abuse, gambling, drugs etc etc

ridiculous.

i'll take advise from someone who has had a hundred failed relationships, over that of a person who was high school sweet hearts and is married for 30+ years every single time. the first guy has way more actual experience and wisdom.

Please don't misquote me...especially so far out of context. I never said anything even remotely like that...much less with a "straight face". You do know what those quotation marks mean...don't you?

here is the exact quote:

so yes, its exactly what you said. no emphasis or ellipses added.

id also state for the record, and thats having the experience of being cheated on, that cheating, is hardly something that cannot be compromised through. there are far far far far worse things that a person can do, say and be to doom a relationship that cannot be compromised over so even your qualification on this statement is silly.

but you know, thats just because i've had that kind of experience with women in my life. it would make sense that you would think that is the worst uncompromising thing someone could do in a relationship if you have been happily married for 30+ years without that experience.

How exactly is that the same? Whatever made you think you can put some of my words in quotation marks, add some other words and claim they are mine? Your added words changed the meaning entirely. I am telling a fellow with a long, happy marriage (until recently)...who loves his wife that I believe that "absent cheating or similar" really bad crap...that I can't believe that through compromise and hard work...things cannot be worked out.

I certainly did not say anything about any other type relationship or even anyone else's marriage. You are either dishonest or have a severe reading problem.